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Francis Poon :Thank you for your remind.
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Dear all,
May be we have different meaning of " Dragon Friends " .
May be u think I'm talking about u,so there have some strongly reply.
Thanks! |
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我覺得好奇怪，點解而家既人咁鍾意分黨分派？學校係咁，公司入面都係咁，你同呢班人玩，你就係呢個黨派，之後想入第個黨派？難矣。
其實，講時講，好似我地呢類人，乜都會影一餐，見人影人，見景影景，見鬼影......，但係又無乜技術可言，咁點分類？
龍友，我諗除左手上既器材係似專業影友外，都無乜邊樣似喎。 |
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Dear all,
May be we have different meaning of " Dragon Friends " .
May be u think I'm talking about u,so there have some strongly reply.
Thanks!
我回應是因對你的言論不滿, 直到現在都是. |
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YY90 :
I'll be happy to know why?
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我覺得好奇怪，點解而家既人咁鍾意分黨分派？學校係咁，公司入面都係咁，你同呢班人玩，你就係呢個黨派，之後想入第個黨派？難矣。
其實，講時講，好似我地呢類人，乜都會影一餐，見人影人，見景影景，見鬼影......，但係又無乜技術可言，咁點分類？
龍友，我諗除左手上既器材係似專業影友外，都無乜邊樣似喎。
哦, 原來我跟你一樣呢? 不如我同你一齊立個門派啊? 水龍派都幾好啊!
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Dear all,
May be we have different meaning of " Dragon Friends " .
May be u think I'm talking about u,so there have some strongly reply.
其實點解呢個thread人氣o甘高, 只係觀乎貴兄立論及論點有所偏差, 所以令人有所異聲, 其實在回應此話題的, 反而大都不是龍友呢!!!
只是對於此話題有不同意見而已.
純粹個人意思, 請各前輩不嫌賜教 |
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別人不同意你而回應, 便指別人是你所說的一種"龍友", 這種言論是我所不滿.
未知我又有沒有錯誤理解你這句"May be u think I'm talking about u,so there have some strongly reply." |
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我覺得好奇怪，點解而家既人咁鍾意分黨分派？學校係咁，公司入面都係咁，你同呢班人玩，你就係呢個黨派，之後想入第個黨派？難矣。
哦, 原來我跟你一樣呢? 不如我同你一齊立個門派啊? 水龍派都幾好啊!
呢頭講緊唔明點解而家既人咁鍾意分黨分派，你呢頭又話想開山立派？唔係既，又係度分黨分派......
水龍派？小龍水好似好聽少少喎！反正都係唔知想做乜，都無Point既。 
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RE:小龍
手震、out-focus等, 都有它美麗的地方.
如果不讚成分黨分派, 那麼也不應將一些光學表現打壓為不好.
re:Francis Poon
地球自有人類, 就有黨派, 強者帶領弱者, 累積整體實力, 以獲得最大成就.
這也是任何群居生物的天性, 我認為分黨分派絕無問題, 問題反而是黨派間
是良性競還是走惡意歧途, 我相信大家對良性、惡性都有足夠理解力, 不詳
談.
我不讚成以訛傳訛或以偏概全, 任何組織都有積極者, 但亦無理由沒有敗類,
當中訂定那組織是好屬壞, 全看整個組識的紀率及正面相對負面的比例.
本地沙龍的確做就了不少門外漢成為熱衷者, 甚至受多個國外組織認同, 不
過老化是事實, 也有沙龍友變得玩相機、以機論人等非攝影學(photography)
的行為, 甚至有人為贏得比賽而攝影, 問題在於上一段所說的多寡及輕重問
題.
我不認為這些敗類技術差或美學感覺低, 依我所見剛好相反, 這些人都有一
定水準, 口袋富足, 大不乏類同、支持者或朋友, 可怕的正是這點, 人是互
相影響的動物, 團體組織如果只看作品水準而冠以相應的銜頭時, 後來者未
必識得分析美感及操手, 例如老師用名牌相機, 半數初班學生都會心思思轉
到名牌, 甚至傳言一笑話, 老師架好了相機, 取景完美, 叫學生拿著菲林背
輪流拍攝.
所以我針對培養後輩的問題, 多於某些人如何表現自我. 正如該死的不是自
殺襲擊的人, 是教育襲擊行為的人, 因為他不死, 自會有更多自殺襲擊的人.
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我覺得好奇怪，點解而家既人咁鍾意分黨分派？學校係咁，公司入面都係咁，你同呢班人玩，你就係呢個黨派，之後想入第個黨派？難矣。
哦, 原來我跟你一樣呢? 不如我同你一齊立個門派啊? 水龍派都幾好啊!
呢頭講緊唔明點解而家既人咁鍾意分黨分派，你呢頭又話想開山立派？唔係既，又係度分黨分派......
水龍派？小龍水好似好聽少少喎！反正都係唔知想做乜，都無Point既。
說笑而已, 請勿見笑!
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I really agree with 超人:該死的不是自殺襲擊的人, 是教育襲擊行為的人, 因為他不死, 自會有更多自殺襲擊的人.
YY90:
I think u really don't know what i mean. |
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Dear all,
May be we have different meaning of " Dragon Friends " .
May be u think I'm talking about u,so there have some strongly reply.
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pigpig stone, so, will you let's know what is your definition ?
As you know, definition of one topic is very important. Otherwise, mis-understanding will creat a lot of meaningless discussion. Since you are the first person who posted this message, I believe you should have your definiton in mind already. Am I correct ? |
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Do u think i should close this topic or not??
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pigpig stone, it depends on what is your objective to bring up this topic. If you really want us to have a postive rethink of "Dragon Friends", I would like to suggest you explain to us what is your defintion of "Dragon Friends". And, we can continue this discuss according to your defintion. On the other hand, if you want to close this topic only becuase there are so many positive/netgative feedback, I would say you are just "light the fire and then run away". You should know that whatever topic is being brought out to be discussed, there must be both positive and negative feedback. |
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Dear Raymond414,
I'm not going to close it becosue of the feedback,now is happening what i don't want to happen.
I think this is not a 討論 any more...it's a war...
All i want is just people think aboth that what are they doing??
Is it good on hk's photography??
Can people see more and improve themself ?
Photography is not only "Saloon"
My " Dragon Friends " is:
""Always think that they are really cool,always show off their Equipment,but they know nothing and poor skill..""
Copy and paste:
HK's "Landscape"
HK's "Pretty Young Girl"
HK's "Flowers"
HK's "Snap Shot"
I just thinking if people sill live in "Saloon",than there will have no improvement..
I just want to do something for HK's photography.Am i wrong?
Or i just do something wrong.
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Do u think i should close this topic or not??
真理愈辯愈明.
你可以唔回應, 但不必所有人都要停. 隨緣吧.
仲有, 本地沙龍都有進步, 不過好慢, 亦跟不了世界沙龍的步伐.
還在漁杆、水壺、打荷花呢!
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我想"沙龍"都算是攝影的一環吧, 其實各有各特色, 也沒有好跟不好, 借用漢仔的武功論, 天下武功出少林, 只有基本技巧有分好或不好, 有沒out-focus, 手振, 暴光錯誤, 所以, 我想包容才是最重要呢!
「獨孤九劍」，無招勝有招！yeahhhhhhh>>>>
沙龍係招，out focus係招，手振係招，甚至under/over都係招！
只有用得恰當與否，沒有規定如何發招。
沙龍都有很好的作品者，係咪？
小妹妹，小弟弟，
睇過幾多好作品先？
不如去找些龍友的作品集看看，
欣賞下別人的長處仲有益啦，係咪？
yy90兄：
唔好動氣唔好動氣，
得閑小弟請你飲茶^^
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I just thinking if people sill live in "Saloon",than there will have no improvement..
I just want to do something for HK's photography.Am i wrong?
Or i just do something wrong.
Nice to meet u all.
Dear Pigpigstone
Do you just want to remind us don't become somebody who "always think that he is really cool,always show off his equipment but actually he know nothing about photography"? Thanks for your suggestion, I will always remind myself that skills, creativity and patience are much important than equipments.
Nevertheless, I think that it is inappropriate to define everyone who take saloon photos as "dragon friend". Firstly, most of them are not so "cool". Secondly, most of them have received solid training in photography. Finally, most of them actually put their whole heart into photography. Their works may be too conservative or narrow. However, I don't think that they are not forcing others to accept their views.
I don't think that people taking saloon photos will have no any further improvement. It depends on whether these people are willing to accept other styles and whether they will always critially review their own works! In fact, we should feel happy that there is no a "single" or "offical" view of photography in Hong Kong. Some people like saloon, some people like snap shot and some people like fine arts.... what's wonderful about this......
I'm not a "saloon friend" and I also don't want to be "dragon friend" as you defined. Nevertheless, I never think that my approach is better than others. I really enjoy to learn more from others who have different views and are applying different approach to take photos. |
