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Dra 唔 dragon Friends其實又有嘜關係丫！只要在自己的範綢裡玩得開心，玩得高興，找到同好，找到人同自己頃，其餘一切都可能不太重要了，事實上有好多野我地都不需強加標讖或刻意加以分類呀，如見解有所不同請勿見怪。
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Do u think u are " Dragon Friends " ??
Dragon Friends always think that they are really cool,always show off their Equipment,but they know nothing and poor skill..
HK's "Landscape"
HK's "Pretty Young Girl"
HK's "Flowers"
HK's "Snap Shot"
HK's " Dragon Friends "
如果我樣樣都影, 我又可以叫...? |
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I am not a Dragon creature, but I think your speech is too subjective, and unfair to people who do Dragon. Because not all the Dragons are behave like this.
To me, people who claims oneself is a photographer can be divided into two major cataglories.
1. Slave of the equipment
2. Master of one's own recreation
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I'm not point out who is " Dragon Friends " at all..
I just want peoples know or think what are they doing and how people think they are..
Someone always show their " Dragon Pic " and many people said "Cool~~"
"Good job!!" "Big Brother!!"" something like that..
HK will have not ART but " Dragon Pic "....
I just telling everybody right here..not only someone..
I'm sorry that my english is not good and i can't say what i really want to..
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排別的, 唯我獨尊, 不單是「打龍友」才有的表現.
但打龍友對相片的變化研究, 及新手法新題材的理解,
非常保守, 而已經常口不對心, 口說不錯, 圍內說另
一番話.
我所指的打龍友, 是香港的, 不是外國. 香港沙龍還
活在世界沙龍十傑的光輝歲月, 將自己困在夢中, 像
一個不會老的美人...
但又唔去養顏、進寶, 甚至沒有照鏡...
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Do u think u are " Dragon Friends " ??
Dragon Friends always think that they are really cool,always show off their Equipment,but they know nothing and poor skill..
HK's "Landscape"
HK's "Pretty Young Girl"
HK's "Flowers"
HK's "Snap Shot"
HK's " Dragon Friends "
為咩攝影要分類?
無論影咩也都是攝影;不祇是原地踏步;死固固冇包容去觀察其他事係最好笑及可悲。 |
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Excuse me, what is "Dragon Friends" actually ? |
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其實只要影得開心,甚至乎只是玩器材,show器材開心,咪得囉!無錢可以用海鷗,有錢咪用contax,各有各精彩.....
影相最重要自得其樂,又何必計較別人用什麼態度去影相呢?
其實邊係dragon friends又有何重耍.平時工作壓力咁大,住老細勾心鬥角,影相可以輕鬆一下,靜思一下.仲要分黨分派?唔好....我只關心自己影唔影倒心中所想‧當然有時玩新器材都幾開心^_^
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Dragon Friends always think that they are really cool,always show off their Equipment,but they know nothing and poor skill..
Do you hate them because they think theyare cool and show off equipment OR
you hate them know nothing and poor skill OR
Both?
What if they are not Dragon friends but also have above 2 characteristics. |
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I'm not 分黨分派. I was just telling what they are doing.They always think they are cool but know nothing outside and won't going to improve themself (Superman is right!)
I'm not 排別,唯我獨尊.But do u think 沙龍 is good for HK's photography ?? Do u think HK's photography will become better or have any improve under 沙龍 ??
I never said that i hate 沙龍.I said [ Do u think u are " Dragon Friends " ?? ]
I agree with 森美 :[只要在自己的範綢裡玩得開心，玩得高興，找到同好，找到人同自己頃，其餘一切都可能不太重要了]
Do u think I'm carzy??To open some argument to get more and more enemies ??
I love Equipment too.I also have something expensive.But what's the relationship between a good pic and a good equipment ?? Can anyone tell me that why they'll list out the equipment??For what?
Photography can be your job,hobby or just for fun.But do u have your own photography??龍友 is just copy and paste.Does there have any different 龍友A and 龍友b's pic??I don't think so.Where is YOUR Nervous System ? Is is a fixed program that
"Pretty Young Girl" = 85/105/135/200/300 mm with f1.4/1.8/2/2.8 ??
"Snap Shot" = All picture with using "Program expose"
Do u know what's going on outside??
Do u know where is Page One ??
Do u know what are u doing?
If u think I'm suck.....I'm
If u think I'm right....I'm
If u think u are cool....Going on
I'm not u and u are not me.
I can't force u to be someone or something.
Just try your best to do what u want to.
Are u a" Dragon Friends " ??
Thanks alot.
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我拿著我的一機兩鏡！全都是小光圈的zoom及入門級的body！
閒時拿來按幾下，有朋友一起才上底片拍。也不知自己拍得好不好。(至少3R的相片上，對焦準確，proper exposed)
但與朋友分享時，都很開心呢！
我沒有昂貴的器材，腳架也是風雨飄搖的。但拍得開心，能在這裡與各位分享一下，聽聽各位的經驗也很滿足。
我也喜歡拿著材把玩半天，在相機店看到那些大炮也註足觀看。在這裡說到器材也會加一把嘴。雖然那些大炮只能看看(像我朋友說：「那些東西不是你買的。」)，聽聽這裡的朋友們說說使用經驗。有幸約到一班影友出來可借他們的來試一試，只要自己開心便可以了。
畢竟昂貴器材有它們的價值，我在這裡也常聽到「你付了多少錢，便得到多少」。那些器材只是工具，可能我們這些工具較為昂貴，也要小心保養，但是我們從中學會了的技巧，經驗是自己的，不放進防潮箱也不會變壞、溜走的。會創作的心永遠是自己的，任何人也拿不走。他日拿了另一個相機，你還能創作出屬於自己的作品。就如畫家拿著畫筆一樣，只要拿起筆，便可畫，那理它是什麼筆。
當然，連筆也不懂拿怎作畫呢？所以基本功是必須的。
今天晚上從與chris聚會回家後有一點感覺，說多了話了。(每次聚會，也學到不少東西呢！不要只躲在自己的空間。出來與影友交流一下，嗯.....都沒什麼交流，只是聽他們說，因為自己沒經驗，只是在吸收。發現自己是很膚淺的。人生經驗的確很重要。)
Edited by - l_thomas on 2002/05/18 02:57:34 |
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派別不是對錯的問題, 也不是建牆立國的樹敵, 古往今來, 任何藝術都有派別門戶,
不單是我國, 其他國家其他文化一樣有, 這是物以類聚, 亦因為人是群居動物, 並
無不當之處.
不當的是「第一」這是虛名, 令很多人忘了為何拍攝. 好一些比拼, 將追求美感或
表達自我的心都打走了.
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其實龍友亦有龍友自已的樂趣.
但我絕不同意龍友的拍攝技術差--->不過真的覺得少變化.欠新意(其實咁講放之四海皆準)---->
HK's "Landscape"
HK's "Pretty Young Girl"
HK's "Flowers"
HK's "Snap Shot"
HK's "Dragon Friends "
HK's "學院派"
HK's "大師"
HK's "商業攝影"
....etc.
其實我自己亦做過幾年龍友.亦因此磨練出一身攝影基本功.
香港沙龍世界十傑亦識得幾個.其實大家都在求變;要新意.
亦識得幾個學院派.十幾廾年還不是一樣"光與影"!!
其實最緊要各自各精彩,不要互相功擊!求同存異!影多Ｄ才知何為好;何為不好!各界別都有好相,不要因為派別而否定別人.先開放自己!才能擴視野.
不要講就天不無敵;做就無能為力!!!
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我請妳睇金庸既笑傲江湖丫，
好好睇家，搞到我不眠不休……
學下令狐沖既「獨孤九劍」，
無招勝有招。
如果心中先存招數成見，
就不能達到最高境界家啦！
千祈唔好走去練咩鬼葵花寶典，
自宮、削足就履、
加上偽君子岳不群不能打破門戶之見……
話之佢係沙龍唔係，
感動到你就係好相啦係咪？
(當然，有時係我地睇唔明，人生經驗淺，
理解唔到當中既感情思想。)
沙龍友既特色好似係標榜技術，(好不好另計)
並不是poor skill
任何人，如果劃地自限，都好難有突破，
例如以為只有某派才是「名門正派」，
岳不群既華山派大曬？
以為用某某神兵利器先有好相出，
手持倚天劍既滅絕師太，都係死。
無一流上乘內功武功打底嘛。
好好修練一下自己既功力啦，
沙龍不沙龍不是問題。
仲有，立即去巿政局圖書館借本《笑傲江湖》
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I think i was totally lost.
Becouse there have nobody know what i mean.
「龍友」 is much much more than 「名門正派」.
And they really don't know what's going on outside.
They always think they are cool. |
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I think i was totally lost.
Becouse there have nobody know what i mean.
「龍友」 is much much more than 「名門正派」.
And they really don't know what's going on outside.
They always think they are cool.
借題發揮，
不用太認真。
或者係你條問題問得不太清楚。
唔緊要啦，享受討論的過程吧。
Edited by - 漢仔 on 2002/05/19 21:15:10 |
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May be your definition of "Salon" fans is not quite the same as others, there are often people go the extreme way in photography. |
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其實只要影得開心,甚至乎只是玩器材,show器材開心,咪得囉!無錢可以用海鷗,有錢咪用contax,各有各精彩.....
影相最重要自得其樂,又何必計較別人用什麼態度去影相呢?
其實邊係dragon friends又有何重耍.平時工作壓力咁大,住老細勾心鬥角,影相可以輕鬆一下,靜思一下.仲要分黨分派?唔好....我只關心自己影唔影倒心中所想‧當然有時玩新器材都幾開心^_^
ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU |
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其實只要影得開心,甚至乎只是玩器材,show器材開心,咪得囉!無錢可以用海鷗,有錢咪用contax,各有各精彩.....
影相最重要自得其樂,又何必計較別人用什麼態度去影相呢?
其實邊係dragon friends又有何重耍.平時工作壓力咁大,住老細勾心鬥角,影相可以輕鬆一下,靜思一下.仲要分黨分派?唔好....我只關心自己影唔影倒心中所想‧當然有時玩新器材都幾開心^_^
ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU
Agree. |
