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3asv71


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2004/03/03 10:01
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終於差不多儲夠錢換機啦,都係決定換菲林機,暫且唔玩數碼住,因為出相都係
菲林靚(不論正片定負片,連自己識既晒相師傅都係咁話,數碼都係傻傻地玩住
傻機先啦)

而家打算等月尾出埋30/33V先再決定要新版EOS 30/33V定舊版EOS 30/33,順便
可以儲多個月錢,今次換機budget大約預$10000內,雖然應該夠錢,而且識個朋
友可以0係代理拎貨,應該會平一(小)截(0卦?),不過最好唔好太盡,如果唔係
比屋企人發現殺左我都似,閃燈方面應該會買支EX550,貪佢功能多,火力夠~
(如果最後爆budget或者會改買EX420 )

至於鏡頭方面,諗住會平平地買支50mm F/1.8玩下(如果有貨既話),不過自己都
係偏向鍾意變焦鏡既方便,最常用影巴士影人既焦距都係28-200左右,另外影
明星function或演唱會時可能要去到300mm左右,不過都會分標準變焦鏡同遠攝
變焦鏡來買,唔會一支過玩晒28-300(雖然呢支都係自己選擇之列內,不過就算
買呢知,都會補多支長鏡玩遠攝),至於要邊支希望大家就以下選擇比d意見(如
果比得落手既話..XD)

標準變焦鏡暫時睇中呢幾支:
1.Canon 28-135 IS USM-冇得好講原廠野係好d,而且評語都唔差,不過要買呢
支,響遠攝鏡個邊0既budget就要屈就下啦

2.Canon 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 II USM-同樣係要少30mm同IS就平一大截.-ˍ-

3.Tamron 24-135- 睇過好多人既評語都話呢支鏡唔差,最重要係平過原廠支
28-135 IS)

4.Tamron 28-200/300 XR- 又係睇中24-135後,衍生出來既另一個選擇,響雙
成睇過28-200好似賣緊$1800左右,28-300好似都係$2500唔駛,要黎平時當標準
變焦鏡都好似幾抵咁 XDDD

5.Sigma 24-135 /F2.8-4.5- 反正都係副廠鏡,呢支就貪佢光圈比Tamron支大
一級光圈)

6.Tokina ATX 24-200mm F3.5-5.6- 又係一支評價好似唔差既鏡(除左話用24mm
時有黑角之外) 

7.其他...唔知各位高手有咩好推介呢


而遠攝變焦鏡就睇中佢地....
1.Canon小小白/小白- 拎過朋友支擺落部EOS33度用,冇得好講,貴野係唔同
d,不過都係講下好了,買完後乜都唔駛要了,想玩呢0的"白色恐怖"都係等中六
合彩先(除非有人平讓比我啦:P)...而且白色鏡身似乎都唔多襯黑色機身吧?
(唉,冇錢買既藉口XDDD )

2.Canon 75-300 USM III- 都係一支0岩自己range同價位既原廠鏡,不過搜尋
過之前既評語討論,成像好似話仲衰過副廠鏡..

3.Tamron 70-300 LD marco- 唔少人心目中既爛鏡,但自己用過覺得還可以,
起碼朋友都話用落我部爛鬼MZ-50度都仲快過佢部EOS33+原廠支75-300,不過之
前買過,而家換系統又用返同一支鏡好似怪怪地-_-

4.Sigma AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 APO MACRO SUPER II- 有人話呢支鏡好過原廠支
75-300,唔知係咪真呢,係既真係會考慮下

5.Sigma AF 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO HSM-雖然自己都對Sigma鏡有少少疑慮,
不過用一支原廠小小白既價錢買到支接近原廠小白規格既鏡,或者都可以諗下既

6.其他...唔知各位高手有咩推介啦 :)

雖然都知好難揀架啦,不過冇辦法,一個半工讀學生既銀彈實在有限,好難話想
要咩就要咩,所以還望各位高手幫小第作個精明計劃或者比d意見,多謝多謝:)

3asv71


網路會員

21) 2004/03/04 00:10 
if i were you, I will buy pentax prime lenses.
$10000 can buy alots of good lenses in pentax. you just need to order and wait for a few weeks.
and there are lots of good 2nd pentax lenses on ebay.
However, you are not me.
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Actrually ,if I decided continue to using pentax ,would you mind to give me some suggestion for which lenses (coz I found that there are only fewer Pentax"s lenses are available in the market) may suitable for my "Photo taking attitude" as I mentioned above.

And also ,if I continue to using Pentax ,I will upgrade my camera body also as my MZ-50 included the basic function , which body will you suggest or has similar function as EOS33(MZ-S ?!) :)

Thank you for your answering :D

PS.Apologize for my poor English as I can"t type Chinese now ^^"

香港至*NET*超人


網路會員

22) 2004/03/04 00:20 
FA135/2.8IF, FA300/4.5ED, FA200/4ED-Macro, FA200/2.8ED are all good stuff. For the $10K, just get the FA135 and FA300.

3asv71


網路會員

23) 2004/03/04 00:27 
FA135/2.8IF, FA300/4.5ED, FA200/4ED-Macro, FA200/2.8ED are all good stuff. For the $10K, just get the FA135 and FA300.
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thank you :)
but if I need the lenses with zoom ,do you have any suggestion ?

香港至*NET*超人


網路會員

24) 2004/03/04 00:36 
Say no to zoom when you thinking of "upgrade".

Vincent★帝國天使


論壇版主

25) 2004/03/04 01:00 
超人趕快出來放P毒!

3asv71


網路會員

26) 2004/03/04 08:43 
嘩..超人兄想毒死人咩 XDD
我都知定焦鏡一定靚過變焦鏡,有機會都會買黎玩下,不過自問暫時仲未有咁既
功力主力玩晒定焦,所以都仲係想玩住變焦鏡先,呢樣亦都係想換canon其中一
樣原因,因為原廠副廠平平貴貴長鏡短鏡都有大把選擇,而且我相信我用定焦鏡
影出來既..一定衰過變焦鏡,唔係畫質問題,而係用慣zoom突然唔用..影車
實死..

同埋機就一定會換,部MZ50玩得耐覺得部機冇乜癮亦冇乜手感,更重要係佢開始
殘咯XD不過係想緊一次過換晒canon定用番pentax(雖然換canon套pextax都會
keep番),唔知MZ-S出面賣緊幾超,又有冇其他body值得推介下呢,等我再計清
楚點換至著數d都好,謝謝~

香港至*NET*超人


網路會員

27) 2004/03/04 08:44 
屍毒太純, 就好似酒中既XO, 須要時間及個人修養先至品嚐得到,
一般後生仔性急及追求外在美, 屍毒絕無威力可言.

cchsean


網路會員

28) 2004/03/04 08:53 
想找 Auto Focus Pentax Zoom 鏡,不如到二手巿場留意 SMC-F 70-210mm/f4-5.6 ,絕對是 Auto Focus 鏡頭裡的一支好鏡頭!以二手價 HK$800 來說,它的表現已經讓小弟非常滿意。最近 ebay 又有兩支在開售,有心買的話,不妨去搶搶。

karry


網路會員

29) 2004/03/04 09:09 
機身手感和價錢掛勾.
其實mz-6/7, *1st af已改進了比z1-p還快.加個電池匣就穩重好多.
f70-210/4-5.6松屋同照相館上星期都各有一支賤賣中under700.
fa24-90絕對不差.副廠我信tamron.死馬唔好預我.

3asv71


網路會員

30) 2004/03/04 09:22 
想找 Auto Focus Pentax Zoom 鏡,不如到二手巿場留意 SMC-F 70-210mm/f4-5.6 ,絕對是 Auto Focus 鏡頭裡的一支好鏡頭!以二手價 HK$800 來說,它的表現已經讓小弟非常滿意。最近 ebay 又有兩支在開售,有心買的話,不妨去搶搶。
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不過咁遠投返來,好似唔多信得過,而且太遠了,唔知香港仲有無呢(新貨或者二手)..

屍毒太純, 就好似酒中既XO, 須要時間及個人修養先至品嚐得到,
一般後生仔性急及追求外在美, 屍毒絕無威力可言.
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"屍毒"即係代表..?(sorry,自己領悟能力比較低,超人兄講野真係深奧 XD)

wlachan


網路會員

31) 2004/03/04 09:27 
其實現在你有什麼器材?

香港至*NET*超人


網路會員

32) 2004/03/04 09:49 
屍 == SMC.

3asv71


網路會員

33) 2004/03/04 09:59 
其實現在你有什麼器材?
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我而家係玩開部MZ50的,至於有乜其實上文已經講過,所以唔再重複了:)

news00


網路會員

34) 2004/03/04 10:00 
"或者應該後悔當年買機比人"乙水"左買Pentax而冇買Canon(好記得當初買
機一心係想要EOS300定500的..點知..算吧,年少無知..)"
Don"t use pentax if you consider that it is no good to you.  Or you may 年少無知 again.  I am a P user.  Please don"t hurt the P users anymore, get Canon if you like.
Other P users, don"t advise him to retain the P system, you will be considered as "乙水" him later.  Let him go.

3asv71


網路會員

35) 2004/03/04 10:15 
Don"t use pentax if you consider that it is no good to you. Or you may 年少無知 again. I am a P user. Please don"t hurt the P users anymore, get Canon if you like.
Other P users, don"t advise him to retain the P system, you will be considered as "乙水" him later. Let him go.
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我冇話P唔好用,只不過係而家仲猶豫緊響P同C之間姐,揀C係因為配件鏡頭選擇
多,而且比較多tele鏡,更重要係朋友同行都係用C多,大家照應方便d嘛;而P
就用開有感情,加上好多野都用得返,而且原廠既鏡仲幾正添(不過有冇錢買
就..),兩樣各有各好

自問玩機玩鏡唔多(更重要係冇錢玩咁多),所以先post上來問下,聽下大家意見
再決定姐,唔駛講到咁嘛-_-

news00


網路會員

36) 2004/03/04 10:34 
"自問玩機玩鏡唔多(更重要係冇錢玩咁多),所以先post上來問下,聽下大家意見再決定姐,唔駛講到咁嘛-_-"
If you just want to ask for advice, please don"t say this kind of wordings - "或者應該後悔當年買機比人"乙水"左買Pentax而冇買Canon(好記得當初買機一心係想要EOS300定500的..點知..算吧,年少無知..)".
Are you say that P users are 年少無知?
You can say that P doesn"t suit your taste, style, appearance, etc.  It"s fine.  I don"t mind.  I respect all other brands users - C, N, M, O, L, etc.

3asv71


網路會員

37) 2004/03/04 10:49 
Are you say that P users are 年少無知?
You can say that P doesn"t suit your taste, style, appearance, etc. It"s fine. I don"t mind. I respect all other brands users - C, N, M, O, L, etc.
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唔好誤會啊,年少無知係話我自己而已,當初人地講咩就信咩..連自己想要咩
都未想清楚就買單鏡機,其實P算好用,不過玩耐左真係覺得唔0岩自己style,
而且如果當初係諗住玩P就唔應該揀部咁普通既MZ50lu(又或者應該話:玩P又要玩
到0岩我自己style的話,我想我要破產了).但係玩左咁耐(其實都係三四年姐)
到話想轉system好定upgrade好時就好似而家咁,唔知點好..-ˍ-

wlachan


網路會員

38) 2004/03/04 12:33 
>更重要係冇錢玩咁多

If that is the case, why not keep using your MZ-50 and add some good lenses, and perhaps the AF360FGZ flash too?

>不過玩耐左真係覺得唔0岩自己style

Style is such an abstract term. It could mean you did not like their designs, or  you were looking for something which you believed could raise your social status within the circle. There are different shooting styles, but the hardwares themsevles do not impose any style on the photographers. They are just tools in reality.

>如果當初係諗住玩P就唔應該揀部咁普通既MZ50lu

EOS33 is not that advance anyway. IMHO, being a good photographer does not mean having the latest toys or most expensive gears. MZ-50 or MZ-3, they are still plastic cameras with basic functions. So long as you got the shutter, the aperture and the focus control, you go everything.

>但係玩左咁耐(其實都係三四年姐)到話想轉system好定upgrade好時就好似而家咁,唔知點好

As you said, "連自己想要咩都未想清楚就買單鏡機." Maybe what you really need is more shooting, less spending until you have gained more experience. HK$10000 can buy you some very good gears if you know how to spent, or you might end up with another set of duplicated hardwares (just different brand).

karry


網路會員

39) 2004/03/04 14:20 
PENTAX的確唔合年輕人.轉canon啦.

香港至*NET*超人


網路會員

40) 2004/03/04 14:44 
Before you upgrade you system, shoot more and learn more in photography rather than playing tools.
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