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>我們可以因為自己是運動員，要用精工錶而"炳"人家用勞力士為多Ｘ餘嗎？根本是層次不同。
then you also can not because 人家用勞力士 then said 精工錶多餘. Thus, I don"t think AF is no value to 120 or 4x5 or 120.
Nevertheless, there are af for 612, 617, 4x5 even 20x24. Just they are mainly for medical and millitary and exteremly expensive.
>拍攝慢，不等於頭腦慢，他可能正在不斷用腦去思考：光圈快門的組合？前景和主體>的分配及後景的襯托？是用黃金構圖抑或打破規限？相反，不斷按快門，利用機的AF>系統，眨眼拍完36張(或12張)就是頭腦快嗎？
For 4x5, my brain is much faster than the operations. I really need a more easy to use 4x5 camera. I don"t mind to have 120 or 4x5 AF.
using AF does not necessary mean "not using brain."
眨眼拍完36張(或12張) also does not necessary mean no using brain.
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I don"t know why people (just like superman & mouse)always distort my words. Pls re-read my all feedbacks and see where you can find that "精工錶多餘","眨眼拍完36張(或12張) also does not necessary mean no using brain"? I won"t make such insulting phrases for I always respect others" choices.
I just said,"相反，不斷按快門，利用機的AF系統，眨眼拍完36張(或12張)就是頭腦"快"嗎？前者拍攝的成功率可能90-100%，而後者可能只得50-60%。其實，無論你是何種人，只要你ENJOY就好了！" and:
"其實，無論你是何種人，只要你ENJOY就好了！"
If you continue to distort my words,then it just shows you have prejdice and how can I argue with you?
As my conclusion, may I repeat my idea as:"其實，無論你是何種人，只要你ENJOY就好了！" |
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---ps 身份象徵既表, 唔係三問就係萬年曆, 最少都係陀飛輪.... 勞力士? 哈..
---.ps 用612機拍攝成功率咁低既咩? 咁仲要慢慢較呀, 浪費菲林同埋人生囉...
Haha, for point 1, I am a poor fellow and I just know Rolex is my target, hahah!
As for point 2, I did not say 612 camera, I just said by using 120 camera and the word"成功率" did not mean as "有公仔睇". It should be changed into "satisfactory" of which 90-100% is asolutely not low at all.
If you think that taking photos slowly and carefully is"浪費菲林同埋人生囉" then using AF to kill films in minutes is more "浪費菲林同埋人生".
(BTW if you want to continue to argue, then read all my words carefully and don"t distort them according to you two"s will.) |
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Finally, I suddenly found that arguing with irrational people is really "浪費人生". So I won"t give feedbacks any more.
All pass-bys can judge who is subjective and prejudice by examining carefully all the statements.
The weather is so fine and it is much better to take photos outdoor!!! Haha! |
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>其實，無論你是何種人，只要你ENJOY就好了！
Very true (assuming one is not hurting others). There is no need to criticize others just because they have different preferences. As a hobby, it does not have to make perfect sense in every way. It was chosen to provide pleasure. |
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Alex, you make a big mistake!
Slowly doesn"t relate to careful or not. Slowly is the opposite of what I need, efficiency only. My target is not to waste any shortest moment of change. The slow and long operation in 45 system is just inefficient and may finally cause wastage on good sencery.
I just point only to one single issue about your speech, that is AF is not useful. In between, I found that you doesn"t even try on LF photography. To be an adult, how can you say something with no standing ground?!
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>>三問就係萬年曆, 最少都係陀飛輪....
你都好識貨啊!比你大到了....平平地都要幾十萬,閒閒地都要過百萬。@@!
況且,有錢都未到你買,大部分款式一年只做得幾隻.....
Rolex都有石英錶...Sekio都有頂級機械錶(Grand Seiko--GS)...^^ |
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陀飛輪有平o野, 兩、三萬有貨, 問題係呢ｄ個陀只係2-axis, 唔係三向.
相機一樣, ALPA講就巴Ｘ閉, 其實與FM加枝廣角冇分別, 只係SHIFT問題,
公圈、快門及對焦都仲係手動, 測光仲係冇, FM其實叻好多! 當然, 迷上
外形及其大公司效應那就冇得好講, 如真係講製作及設計心思, SILVESTRI
那部絕對無對手, 但那又如果, 同把石屎鑽咁上下重, 認真係最失敗既
PORTABLE FIELD CAMERA. 所以我呢半世人最睇好始終係HORSEMAN, 飛機鋁
合金, 冇多餘設計, 體積細夠晒輕仲兼相對地平, 呢Ｄ先係影相人既正確
投資. 可是, CAMBO一出又係另一回事, 因為可以拍45. 有得比較既就只有
SINAR HANDY, 可式SINAR不再生產, 與及腳架座唔夠堅, 幾好都冇用.
我既攝影從來都唔享受過程, 我唔識行為藝術, 行為果時都係打幾枝啤酒
入肚會HI些少, 所以我選機講實用, 加上我一向都係窮鬼一明, 貴多一分
買才一枝鏡, 亦少了一個效果, 少了創作空間, 我才不會亂花費吧.
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>>陀飛輪有平o野, 兩、三萬有貨, 問題係呢ｄ個陀只係2-axis, 唔係三向.
我只知最平果隻陀飛輪都要十萬左右,由香港人--矯大羽先生,親自製作,連瑞士都讚不絕口! |
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>加上我一向都係窮鬼一明, 貴多一分買才一枝鏡, 亦少了一個效果, 少了創作空間, 我才不會亂花費吧.
Then how do you explain the boxes of gears collecting dust under your bed? Isn"t it contradicting with your own theory?
PS: This is a real question btw. |
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"在攝影界內，固然有追求效率和新科技者，那他們可用Canon EOS，但亦有不少人為追求陶治心精，怡情養性而去攝影的，那使用手動的Leica、Huss及4x5又有何不好？"
兄台，你猛話人地誤解你意思，但你又總以人地用乜野機黎將人分類。係吾係好片面呢？
小弟用 EOS，都係追求陶治心精，怡情養性而去攝影o者！用 AF 不等如不用腦去思考“光圈快門的組合？前景和主體的分配及後景的襯托？是用黃金構圖抑或打破規限？“吧。 |
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>Then how do you explain the boxes of gears collecting dust under your bed? Isn"t it contradicting with your own theory?
Whenever I have, I can choose of using it or not. If I don"t have any, I have no choice at all.
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Who can answer why Hassel and Rollei launched their H1 and 6008AF respectively if their die-hard fans are so unsupportive ? Are Hassel and Rollei nut ?? |
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It is a question for Rollei as 6008AF is backward compatabile with
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Sorry. It is NOT a question for Rollei....
Not nuts at all. |
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Guys,
What do you think about Rollie and Hassy?
Which one is better? Please comment
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What do you think about Rollie and Hassy?
>>Good stuffs and expensive.
Which one is better? Please comment
>>Same league, IMHO. |
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如果ROLLIE不是由折繩做代理, ROLLIE早就無敵! 起碼贏HASSY可以用SCHNEIDER鏡.
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如果ROLLIE不是由折繩做代理, ROLLIE早就無敵! 起碼贏HASSY可以用SCHNEIDER鏡.
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"如果"...........我都覺得好可惜.
冇計. |
