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kuankuoyun2002


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2006/03/22 18:18
器材: Nikon 尼康 D2Hs最新拍賣藝廊作品D2Hs規格表
new micro-nikkor 105: VR works well for macro

I have seen skeptical posts on dpreview on the effectiveness of VR for macro shots, in complete contradiction with my own experience with the 80-400VR+Canon 500D close-up in the field.

A french guy had actually the opportunity to try the new AF-S 105 VR, and he posted his impressions on his site (in french) with some examples shot handheld at slow shutter speeds:

http://simpho.free.fr/forum/vr105.html
http://simpho.free.fr/forum/vr105_2.html


His initial impression is that VR helps a lot, even close to 1:1 magnification. He said that most images he took were simply impossible without VR.

Another really interesting point is that the AF was really fast with his D2Hs, fast enough in continuous AF-C to compensate for translational (subject to lens) motion !! Wow, if this holds true, I think Nikon has a real winner here :)

Pierre
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=17684773

His initial impression is that VR helps a lot, even close to 1:1 magnification. He said that most images he took were simply impossible without VR.
此君認為防震功能在近距離近到1:1的範圍還是有用的.



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kuankuoyun2002


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281) 2006/05/22 13:45 
Have you had enough 105mm VR samples yet? :-)

What? No?


Well, it rained for six weeks after I got this lens, so I'm playing catch up. Then when I'm not working, I'm taking my daughter to soccer. Chasing bugs is my favorite thing to do, so imagine my surprise to find this lens could just stay on the D70 for soccer instead of switching to the 85mm.

Now, I am sure that in low light I'd be putting the 85 1.4 back on in a New York minute but in decent light, I was pretty impressed with its speed and crisp rendition.

A tripod is almost always impractical in 'the field' shooting bugs, so this lens is a huge help to me in my critter quest.

However, don't limit yourself to bugs. It's a sweet piece of glass good for way more than that!

Michelle

A tiny visitor on my iris:

Naw, maybe I'll try the columbine...

A micro spider

Fitting in well.

105mm VR does soccer:

And more soccer (Don't get me started!)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18525372

kuankuoyun2002


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282) 2006/05/22 16:20 
nikkor 105mm vr or 85mm 1.8 for weddings?
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18483264

I love the 105VR, but not a wedding lens.
I have 105VR and also the 85 f1.4 (not the 1.8).

In a similar situation, I'd pick the 85 1.4 hands-down.


Even though the 105VR takes lovely portraits, it's definitely NOT a low-light lens.

The 85 IS!!!

There you have it.

I love both lenses, but each shines in its own special area.

Good luck!

Michelle
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18485325

kuankuoyun2002


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283) 2006/05/23 03:21 
Is 105VR color abberation serious?
I made a simple exercise for the AFS Micro 105mm VR. It was taken by D200 with 2 SB800's at 1/160s f/20.

Original file

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18423179

Color fringe Serious(105mm VR的色邊現象嚴重)

Another observation on fringes. 另一個色邊現象的觀察

Original file

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18534341

kuankuoyun2002


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284) 2006/05/23 15:19 
Nikon 105 vs. Tamron 90 Macro Which is better?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18542671

Re: Nikon 105 vs. Tamron 90 Macro Which is better?
Posted by    Bill McClung  

I have owned both (sold the Tamron to help pay for the Nikon) and, in my opinion, the Nikon wins hands down. Not that the Tamron doesn't make great images...it does.

However, the Nikon focuses faster and I have found the VR feature on the Nikon 105mm to be almost a miracle. The images are razor sharp and I have been able to hand-hold macro shots down to 1/10-1/20 second!

I also like the (slight) additional "reach" when working with critters that can sting or bite.

I have a pbase gallery dedicated to this lens. If you would like to see a fairly extensive collection of images taken with the Nikon 105mm VR lens, please visit the gallery:

http://www.pbase.com/nc_bill/nikon_105mm_afs_vr_lens


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Bill McClung

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18543510

kuankuoyun2002


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285) 2006/05/23 20:27 
Nikon D2x ,Nikkor 105mm VR f2.8 ED-IF AF-S
1/160s f/11.0 at 105.0mm iso400 full exif

http://www.pbase.com/bountyhunter/image/59742222

kuankuoyun2002


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286) 2006/05/23 20:28 
Nikon D2x ,Micro Nikkor 105mm f2.8G ED-IF AF-S DX
1/320s f/16.0 at 105.0mm iso400 with Flash full exif

http://www.pbase.com/bountyhunter/image/60171677

kuankuoyun2002


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287) 2006/05/24 04:15 
AF 85mm f/1.4D IF和AF-S VR 105mm f/2.8G IF-ED微距的取舍??

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=368793

kuankuoyun2002


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288) 2006/05/24 09:39 
Nikon 105mm f2.8 VR micro for jewelry shots

I am looking for a good lens to use for jewelry photos. Any thoughts on using the 105 2.8 VR Micro for this purpose? What might be a cheaper alternative but still give excellent results?

我在找可作為拍攝寶石的好镜頭,有沒有認為105 2.8 VR Micro這支鏡頭合用於這工作的呢?有沒有其他更便宜又好用的鏡頭可代替呢?

Thanks
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18549357

Re: Nikon 105mm f2.8 VR micro for jewelry shots

It's more expensive, but you might want to check out the 85mm PC Micro. It'll give you macro focusing along with tilt / shift.

新版的105mm VR Macro用在拍攝手飾、項鍊、玉鐲、戒指、寶石是太贵了,你可以查一查85mm PC Micro.它可用於斜移對焦(移軸)式的微距拍攝.

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-Brian
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18550145

Also consider 60 micro

As far as I can tell, a 60 f/2.8 micro will be more than sufficient for jewelry photography

若我就說,用60mm f/2.8 macro 就已足於應付一切有関於寶石的攝影工作.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18550315

kuankuoyun2002


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289) 2006/05/24 11:03 

kuankuoyun2002


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290) 2006/05/25 01:13 
Ottawa Tulip Fest and Toronto Photo Show

I was lucky enough to have my dad's new Nikkor 105mm VR Micro for a couple weeks during the tulip festival and I attended to take full advantage of it. It was too bad that the weather did not want to cooperate with me. It was either rainy or overcast. This created lots of processing I had to do later on to brighten up the photos and fake some sunlight. Now this weekend I am back in Cambridge so that I can attend the Toronto Photographic & Digital Imaging Show with my dad. I really want to check out all of Nikon's new VR lenses along with the new D200

http://nullphotography.blogspot.com/

kuankuoyun2002


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291) 2006/05/25 03:27 

kuankuoyun2002


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292) 2006/05/25 03:35 
I got it today...

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Heavier and bigger than the old 105 and has lightening speed AFS like the long Nikon lenses. VR works fine. The lens shows traces of CA wide open, and is razor sharp.
I'll test it fully in next couple of days.
I've discovered that it works fine with the Nikon TCs, creating a 150mm /4 lens with the TC-14E, a 180mm/4.8 lens with the TC-17E etc. This was a surprise to me. With a TC it reports properly the real aperture and focal length!
Hear are some samples of the colors, bokeh, a backlight shot with the sun in the frame and sharpness (100% crops in the pictures).
On the face of it, a fine optical masterpiece.

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=46944
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=46945
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=46942
http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=46943

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=596826#post596826

kuankuoyun2002


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293) 2006/05/25 03:46 
AF-S VR Micro 105mm f/2.8G下的貓貓
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/vixenet&article_id=2690016

AF-S VR Micro 105mm f/2.8G 試用照
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/vixenet&article_id=2675255

kuankuoyun2002


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294) 2006/05/25 04:02 

kuankuoyun2002


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295) 2006/05/25 14:20 
My thoughts (compared to 60 micro)
Posted by    Matt F  
I do not disagree with anything Bjorn said in his review. Yet I would give the lens a 5 rating. This is simply because I do not have the breadth of experience or lens collection that Bjorn does. I think the large majority of people who buy this lens will be extremely happy with it. Obviously Bjorn is not your average lens consumer.
我並没有不同意Bjorn所在他的評論中的任何東西.我依然會給這鏡頭評5分,這是因為我沒有像Bjorn擁有這麼多鏡頭和豐富的經驗.我想大部份有購買到這支鏡頭的人都會很高興和滿意.

Bjorn is dead-on with the VR for macro. Turning it on will give you much sharper hand-held results than having it off, even at 1:1. BUT, it will not give you "critical sharpness". At 1:1, I find I need to keep the shutter at 1/160th or faster to be confident of my sharpness -- 1/125th or below is pretty dicey for me. As subject distance increases holdable shutter speeds of course increase.
Bjorn是非常反對在微距拍攝來使用VR的. 打開VR用手持來拍攝微距的東西是會比關掉VR來拍攝更清楚,就是用來拍1:1的實物也是一樣有效,但不會得到非常銳利的影像.我發現需要將快門速度調高到1/160秒或更高才能得到很銳利且清楚的影像--1/125鈔以下對我而言就不確定能如此.當所要拍攝的景物距離加大時當然手持時的快門速度可以降低.

I can actually hand-hold my 60 micro at slower speeds, even without VR (1/100th is usually safe with that one). Having less magnification helps hand-holdability more than the VR does.
實際上我手持60mm macro就可用慢點的快門速度(用1/100秒的快門速度就很安全).實物大小不要拍攝得太大就可增加手持的安全性也可比開VR有效.
Nevertheless, I far prefer to use the 105 VR because it is just a more pleasant experience -- mainly the focus speed and increased working distance.
不過,我更喜歡用105 VR因為有令人愉快的經驗 -- 更快的對焦速度和较長的工作距離.
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kuankuoyun2002


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296) 2006/05/26 10:17 

kuankuoyun2002


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297) 2006/05/30 13:10 
105VR Macro : Anyone try TC1.4 or TC1.7 ?

Would love to know how this lens performs with a TC, both for telephoto and macro applications. 很希望知道這鏡頭套上TC1.4或TC1.7後對於微距攝影或遠距攝影的影響

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18622286

Re: 105VR Macro : Anyone try TC1.4 or TC1.7 ?

I have not tried a TC but according to Nikon the following TC's will work.
我没試過套上TC鏡之後去拍攝,但根据NIKON的說明下列的TC鏡是可用的
AF-S Teleconverters TC-14E II/17E II/20E II (Autofocus operation is not possible. VR and AE functions are available.)
AF-S Teleconverters TC-14E II/17E II/20E II (不能自動對焦但VR和AE功能是存在的)

I suspect the Kenko Pro 300 1.4x will work similarly. 我料想Kenko Pro 300 1.4x也一樣可用
Regards
Darrell

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18624210

Re: 105VR Macro : Anyone try TC1.4 or TC1.7 ?

I've tried the lens with the TC 1.4 II. It works, but it's not as good as extension rings in the "macro world". If you need some additional reach the extender is probably a good idea, but the image quality decreases a bit/noticeable!
我試過套上TC 1.4 II之後是可用的,但這組合在微距拍攝的工作没有比套上接寫環來得好用.如果你需要拍攝遠一點,套上extender是個好主意,但影像的素質有點明顯看到的下降.
Björn

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18626019

Re: 105VR Macro : Anyone try TC1.4 or TC1.7 ?

Interesting that it says that AF will not work. I wonder if that is only in Micro mode, or in general.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18626797

Re: 105VR Macro : Anyone try TC1.4 or TC1.7 ?

I tried the 105 VR with the Kenko Pro 1.4x. VR works well but AF becomes really slow. Iimage quality remains excellent, even wide open. I did not try with the Nikon TC1.4 and TC1.7. 我試過在105 VR套上Kenko Pro 1.4x之後VR還是正常發揮功能但AF變成非常慢.影像素質還是很好,就算用大光圈還是很好. 我没有試用過Nikon TC1.4和TC1.7

Pierre

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18626002

kuankuoyun2002


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298) 2006/05/31 03:55 
105mm VR out-of-the-box-sample

Complete macro newbie, I took the lens out of the box, went outside, took about 10 handheld shots on manual focus with VR on. It's very windy outside atm as well.

I figure this lens will be kick-ass once I figure out how to work DOF on macros:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18640185

kuankuoyun2002


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299) 2006/05/31 04:10 
Re: 105VR Macro : Anyone try TC1.4 or TC1.7 ?

I've tried with all TCs (1.4, 1.7, 2.0).
AF and VR continue to work in all cases.
But AF becomes so slow, that i rid off that idea of my mind.

所有的TC鏡(1.4, 1.7, 2.0)我都試過, AF和VR都正常但AF變得非常慢使得我打消套用TC鏡的念頭.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18637671

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300) 2006/05/31 04:19 
Re: 105mm VR out-of-the-box-sample

Much smaller ant, little critters keep moving super fast:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18640823
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