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kuankuoyun2002


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2006/03/22 18:18
器材: Nikon 尼康 D2Hs最新拍賣藝廊作品D2Hs規格表
new micro-nikkor 105: VR works well for macro

I have seen skeptical posts on dpreview on the effectiveness of VR for macro shots, in complete contradiction with my own experience with the 80-400VR+Canon 500D close-up in the field.

A french guy had actually the opportunity to try the new AF-S 105 VR, and he posted his impressions on his site (in french) with some examples shot handheld at slow shutter speeds:

http://simpho.free.fr/forum/vr105.html
http://simpho.free.fr/forum/vr105_2.html


His initial impression is that VR helps a lot, even close to 1:1 magnification. He said that most images he took were simply impossible without VR.

Another really interesting point is that the AF was really fast with his D2Hs, fast enough in continuous AF-C to compensate for translational (subject to lens) motion !! Wow, if this holds true, I think Nikon has a real winner here :)

Pierre
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=17684773

His initial impression is that VR helps a lot, even close to 1:1 magnification. He said that most images he took were simply impossible without VR.
此君認為防震功能在近距離近到1:1的範圍還是有用的.



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261) 2006/05/17 23:45 
有中文真好!感謝kuankuoyun2002 、

kuankuoyun2002


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262) 2006/05/18 03:11 
My first Flower (D200 + 105mm Macro) , Please, critique.

This is my first flower photography with D200 and Nikkor 105mm, I would like some opinions.

http://mtusa.smugmug.com/gallery/1466319

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NKND200

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=18466306

這是NKND200君用D200+AFS-VR105mm macro所拍攝到的第一張花卉攝影,希望批評或能給一點意見.

kuankuoyun2002


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263) 2006/05/18 21:05 

小小乖


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264) 2006/05/19 08:51 
kuankuoyun2002

謝謝你的翻譯!

as159


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265) 2006/05/19 10:10 
Kuankuoyun2002 大大

不管你的文章是中文或英文,我都支持你,謝謝你。
中文閱讀是方便,但閱讀英文文章也讓我的英文進步中。

kuankuoyun2002


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266) 2006/05/20 11:36 

kuankuoyun2002


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267) 2006/05/20 16:21 
Full Version: AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm F2.8G IF-ED

http://wetpixel.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t12216.html

kuankuoyun2002


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268) 2006/05/20 16:40 

kuankuoyun2002


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269) 2006/05/20 16:52 

kuankuoyun2002


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270) 2006/05/20 18:41 
D200+105mm VR vs D2x+85mm 1.4!

Greetings!

not a scientific test...maybe of interest for someone.


Both shot in NEF, both processed with the same settings (color room, sharpness and so on) through NC,

both @f11 and iso100, both 100% crop of original shot image.

Let me know what you think/see...


D200 & 105mm f2.8 VR:

D2x & 85mm f1.4:

kind regards,
--
Michael S.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508319

D200&105mm vr和D2X&85mm/1.4的人像攝影比較
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kuankuoyun2002


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271) 2006/05/21 04:03 
My micro shooting with D50 + 105VR =)

After 3 weeks ordering, I got my 105VR.

It is a lens that Nikon fans must buy..=)


VR has effects on micro shooting, although may not reduce as 4 stops as near infinity shooting.

I took the following pictures with D50. VR-ON

Comments are welcome!!

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18512931

kuankuoyun2002


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272) 2006/05/21 11:21 
梅雨期的开始? [日记] 2006-05-14


这个周每日小雨稀稀拉拉微降。星期六也由于雨,到星期日总算雨也结束了。

Nikon D200+AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor ED 105mm F2.8G(IF)原尺寸照片

下雨的话野草用力伸长。到上星期是稍长的草坪左右的空地的草到腰附近伸长了。生命力强。昆虫是雨停止的期间也拼命地食品收集。

www.excite.co.jp/world/chinese/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.koss.jp%2F&wb_lp=JACH

kuankuoyun2002


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273) 2006/05/21 11:23 

kuankuoyun2002


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274) 2006/05/21 11:41 

kuankuoyun2002


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275) 2006/05/21 14:03 
D200&105mm vr和D2X&85mm/1.4的人像攝影比較
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508319


First thing that strikes me is that there is much more tonal range and colour detail in the irises of the eyes in the D200 shot, and the lips look softer and more natural. It seems that the D2X shot resulted in higher contrast at the expense of some detail and tonal range.

However, overall, the D2X shot seems to have captured slightly more detail in areas like the hair, skin pores etc. and to my eye is ultimately sharper than the D200 shot. Given the choice though, I would pick the D200 + 105 VR as the more pleasing portrait.

--
Dave

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508689

D200&105mm VR的人像在眼睛部位有較寬廣的色調呈現出來,嘴唇部位也表現得較柔較自然.D2X&85mm/1.4的人像在眼睛的部位就有較强的對比反差而失去部份的细節和色域的表現.
但總體而言,D2X&85mm/1.4的人像在皮膚的毛细孔,頭髮部位都保留有較多的细節而讓人感覺是有比D200所拍攝得的人像更銳利.讓我選擇的話我會選D200&105mm VR的人像因它比較討人喜歡.


kuankuoyun2002


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276) 2006/05/21 18:13 
D200&105mm vr和D2X&85mm/1.4的人像攝影比較
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508319

Eyes and Teeth

Funny but it seems her teeth are the point of focus for both shots, instead of her eyes and I find that distracting.

But also, the fact that at f/11 the DOF of the 105VR still seems razor thin so that the tip of her nose and her eyes seem soft to me is bothersome -- especially as I am going to shoot a party with this lens (among others) this afternoon!

Certainly the eye color seems different but I have no clue as to which is more accurate.

Cute girl and nice shots BTW. Can we see the uncropped versions?
--
Cheers,
Joe
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18509689

有趣的是對焦點是乎是對在牙齒而不是對在眼睛使得畫面的張力被分散
更何況105VR在F11光圈的景深還是有點不足,看起來在鼻尖和眼睛部位有點柔是较令人討厭的--由其我在下午也要用這支镜頭去拍party的照片.
這两張相片的眼睛部份是不同顏色但我無法知道那一張比較正確.
這位小姐很可愛而相片也拍得很好,可以看看原來圖片嗎?

kuankuoyun2002


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277) 2006/05/21 18:39 
D200&105mm vr和D2X&85mm/1.4的人像攝影比較
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508319

> Funny but it seems her teeth are the point of focus for both shots,
> instead of her eyes and I find that distracting.

you can be for sure, that I DID FOCUS on the eyes - in both pictures!
我保証這两張相片都是以眼晴作為對焦點.

> But also, the fact that at f/11 the DOF of the 105VR still seems
> razor thin so that the tip of her nose and her eyes seem soft to me
> is bothersome -- especially as I am going to shoot a party with
> this lens (among others) this afternoon!
>
> Certainly the eye color seems different but I have no clue as to
> which is more accurate.


yup - there is a difference in color - but as written - I used exactly the same settings in NC - I saved the file after processing the D-200 pic

and used the same for the D2x.


是的,這两張相片的眼睛是不同顏色--但是我在NC是用同樣的設定來作調整,之後才將它们儲存起來.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18510674

kuankuoyun2002


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278) 2006/05/21 23:43 
My micro shooting with D50 + 105VR =)
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18512931

Did you use your SB600 for those pictures? What was the shutter speed? If you used the fash, did you use it in the atached to the camera or wireless?
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18521190

Yup I used SB-600 attached to the camera. i find that the background is better if external flash is used.

Shutter speed normally was faster than 1/125' or increase ISO/aperture to achieve this for handholding.


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Shoot with RAW
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18521551

kuankuoyun2002


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279) 2006/05/22 04:30 
D200&105mm vr和D2X&85mm/1.4的人像攝影比較
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508319

nice shots but I think the 85 is not at its best at f11 whereas the 105 benefit from it much more 拍攝得很好但我想85mm/1.4的鏡頭最佳表現不是在f11的光圈而105mm VR在f11的光圈是比較有利的.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18511811

kuankuoyun2002


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280) 2006/05/22 04:50 
D200&105mm vr和D2X&85mm/1.4的人像攝影比較
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18508319

> 105 benefit from it much more
> (by the way you are sure that your model appreciates that you
> photograph her with a macro lens !)

hehe - I just used the D200 and 105mm VR Macro for testing...
my lens for the shoot was of course the 85mm (and D2x)

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18512021

嘿嘿 - 我拿D200&105mm VR Macro作测試用,正常的拍攝是用D2X&85mm/1.4
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