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jsklee 網路會員	2004/01/25 18:52 器材: 其他其他終於為TC-1爭回一口氣. I take the same scene with exposure compensation and compare the photos taken by these 4 cameras. Although I have enlarged / reduced the photos to have the same content, the result was still remarkable. Welcome all ideas. http://www.pbase.com/iamjskleetc1p2/

martinpt 網路會員	1) 2004/01/25 22:35 看起來G35和minilux好像比T3和TC-1 sharp一些啊~ 但用腳架是不是會更好呢? 始終可再減少一個variable嘛~
jsklee 網路會員	2) 2004/01/25 22:55 yes..... but remember TC-1 is 28mm.....
wlachan 網路會員	3) 2004/01/26 07:05 要測試準確，便一定要腳架，28mm or not。因為即使有少許的 sharpness 差別，也可以歸咎於手震。
jsklee 網路會員	4) 2004/01/26 10:14 wlachan: Yes, I agree. You could also refer to my other tests on these 4 cameras: http://www.pbase.com/iamjsklee
lawlaw 網路會員	5) 2004/01/26 16:43 四部都係好野，hehe，我自己都係鍾意G2，價錢合理又靚仔，又可換鏡頭，不過同其它三部比就大左D。我冇35mm，聽人講呢枝鏡係G系黎講唔係好突出呢。
jsklee 網路會員	6) 2004/01/26 20:51 in fact, when TC-1 is set to f/16, the resolution falls dramatically. So if you have it, or you wanna buy it, seldom use it at f/16, except in the case you are shooting to the sun, at such situation I have tried and the result is that there is no flare. Good camera.
jsklee 網路會員	7) 2004/01/26 20:52 When it is set at f/5.6 or f/8, the resolution is the best, which nearly beats T3.
jsklee 網路會員	8) 2004/01/27 02:32 TC-1 vs 120SW http://www.pbase.com/iamjskleetc1p2/minolta_tc1_vs_pentax_espio_120sw Welcome all comments.
Arthur塗夫網路會員	9) 2004/01/27 23:37 TC-1 vs 120SW ----------- tc-1 seems to have a trace of pinkish tone and beats 120SW in terms of resolution. Also, jsklee, you have conducted several tests about these cameras. what is your comments on their performance?
jsklee 網路會員	10) 2004/01/28 02:31 If TC-1 does not beat 120SW, I think I have to throw TC-1 into rubblish bin.......haha Before the test, I know that prime lens should be better than zoom lens in terms of image quality, and that"s why I would like to perform such test to know how large is the difference. In my opinion, I think I will not use f/16 of TC-1 after the test, except where I am shooting directly to the sun (since the highest shutter speed is only 1/350s). In fact, I think that 28mm + f/5.6 could have enough dof for most of the cases when I am taking scenic photos. Actually, I have taken some photos using f/16 of TC-1 to shoot directly to the sun. One thing should be noted is that there is no flare, which I am very delighted. After the comparison of TC-1 vs 120SW, I am also astonished by the result, which shows that 120SW could have such performance. The highest resolution was offered by Minilux, but one point should be noted is that TC-1 is 28mm and it nearly beats T3 in terms of resolution. If not considering the angle of view, for infinity shooting, I would definitely choose Minilux, due to its impressive results. For general purpose, or I should say, for "one camera going around the world", I would choose T3, because it has the shortest focus distance (an advantage to macro) and it can focus virtually at all situations. I would later upload the T3 comparison of different apertures to all of you. Hope that I could compare TC-1 vs G28 later! haha!
心急人YL 網路會員	11) 2004/01/28 18:58 jsklee: 請問Minilux和T3的對焦和過片聲音,那一部操作較寧靜?? 我只用過T3....^^ 睇完你的Minilux照片,我都想上DB那部.....
jsklee 網路會員	12) 2004/01/28 21:33 The sound produced by Minilux is sharper while that of T3 is of lower frequency. Although Minilux is sharper in sound, but it is quieter. DB = HKD4300 ar!
心急人YL 網路會員	13) 2004/01/28 22:06 thank you jsklee兄. DB不是4400嗎?? 除了DB,還會考慮Tvs3或GR1V. ^^ ps:早陣子賣左幾部P&S,現在非常唔慣,所以要找過部. C3好像都不錯,但可惜沒有AE. 這是C3用家討論,供參考: http://www.leicainfo.com/discus/messages/14022/42270.html http://www.leicainfo.com/discus/messages/14022/43908.html http://www.quercus.com/mja/c3/c3-review.html
jsklee 網路會員	14) 2004/01/28 22:42 Push TVSIII! I also wanna buy.....haha! Why suddenly sold several P&S? C3 is the best among the C series, I think!
心急人YL 網路會員	15) 2004/01/28 22:46 >Why suddenly sold several P&S? he..he..買錶. 之前玩過幾部都係定焦,現在對ZOOM較有興趣. Tvs3,掂唔掂呢?? 有沒有資料提供?? 聽聞上一代TV2個AF不太掂....TVS3都仲係用Passive AF....我都有點擔心.
jsklee 網路會員	16) 2004/01/28 23:22 心急人YL: Quickly buy one and test it for us la! haha!
心急人YL 網路會員	17) 2004/01/28 23:33 如無意外,下星期六出動,剛好是visa的截數日期. ^^ 現在努力找尋資料. 從你的測試比較中,Minilux真的很厲害啊! 有沒有看過TVS3的相呢??
jsklee 網路會員	18) 2004/01/29 00:43 hope this would help you: http://www.contaxinfo.com/discus/messages/14023/159805.html http://www.contaxinfo.com/discus/messages/14023/67489.html http://www.contaxinfo.com/discus/messages/14023/107796.html "If you use a slow film like Velvia, it vignettes like hell at 30mm in all f-stops and in the second and third zoom position in the first 2 f-stops. If you use i.e. Fuji Sensia 100, you will not see vignetting that much, but you will still see it. So the faster the film , the better for the TVS III. Since The TVS III zoom is very slow (but industry standard), especially at 60mm, a faster film makes sense anyway. The lens quality is for a P&S very good, definitely better then the TVS II and I, which have both the same lens. But not as good as the T3. "
jsklee 網路會員	19) 2004/01/29 00:48 http://www.photographyreview.com/pscCameras/Point,and,Shoot/Contax,Tvs,III/PRD_84614_3108crx.aspx "In my opinion, distortion at 30mm is significant. Vignetting at 30mm is acceptable. Built in flash is not powerful enough especially at 30mm." "Lens vignettes like hell at 30mm even at F8. Distorion not bearable at 30 and 60mm (consider the cost). Lens flap very clumsy to operate. Zooming mechanism not fine enough. Built in flash too weak, and recharges very slowly. Viwefinder too small. Too much shutter lag." "To avoid vignetting one should never shoot wider than 37.5mm (zooming is not continuous - there are 5 positions: 30mm, 37.5mm, 45mm, 52.5mm, 60mm). "
心急人YL 網路會員	20) 2004/01/29 00:52 我都在手扎找尋過,TVS3受變型和黑角困擾....@@! 但這都是ZOOM鏡普遍現像,差別在於情度不同.....沒法子。其實,近年的Minilux是否已經無EO2呢?? jsklee,你部用左幾耐?行貨維修EO2會否較便宜?

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