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tata168


新進會員

2003/11/17 14:19
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請問,

以Nikon F 80 body 為例,想用副廠鏡Tamron AF 28-300mm F.3.8-5.6 XR 一鏡走天涯,有冇異議或其他提供?

副廠鏡中的一鏡走天涯,是否那支Tamron 28-300 XR 最好?

謝!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

tata168


新進會員

21) 2003/11/18 11:42 
在我心目中,一鏡走天涯的定義是:拿住一鏡乜都影,廣角28mm時影風景,中焦100mm時影人像,300mm時影花,鳥,蟲,魚

以下是个別而已

風景一鏡走天涯: 17-40 mm zoom
人像..........: 80mm 定焦
花,蟲.........: 105mm marco
鳥............: 100-400mm zoom





godmars


新進會員

22) 2003/11/18 11:54 
其實如果你真係要高倍Zoom而又有心理準備預o左質素好極有限, 咁Tamron喱支28-300XR就應該係最好選擇。

不過如果想再平D, 都可以考慮Sigma新出果支28-300新款鏡, 大小重量及畫質係就係輸Tamron果枝少少, 但對焦快少少, 價錢仲平成千銀咁滯(以大家都係行貨計)。

informer


新進會員

23) 2003/11/18 12:01 
his question is :
風景一鏡走天涯: 17-40 mm zoom
人像..........: 80mm 定焦
花,蟲.........: 105mm marco
鳥............: 100-400mm zoom


肯定沒有17-400 mm
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大話王


新進會員

24) 2003/11/18 12:06 
Sigma吾只輪一樣,LD呢、非球面都要比人小,相信打散件賣都應該Tamron貴D,而tata168說300mm影蟲..sigma放大比率就吾夠,最近攝距離會改變由28-300都不同,Tamron就話吾會變(不過都變小小1-2cm,佢個係平均數)
對焦快慢大家差吾多,但Tamron CPU就會因環境光暗自動調節,有鏡可以試試,我上次試Sigma就吾會.(可能係我試錯啦...)

我吾係話sigma吾好,不過呢樣就真係Tamron 好好多!....

jsklee


新進會員

25) 2003/11/18 12:24 
"在我心目中,一鏡走天涯的定義是:拿住一鏡乜都影,廣角28mm時影風景,中焦100mm時影人像,300mm時影花,鳥,蟲,魚"

Yes, it really depends on what you mean about 一鏡走天涯.

In my opinion, 一鏡走天涯的定義是: 進可攻,退可守,質素高,日夜都能手持拍攝. So that"s why I recommend 50/1.4.  It has the following advantages:

(1) prime lens: good quality
(2) large aperture: you can use it even at night without tripod (of course you have to use > ISO 400 film)
(3) suitable weight: not easy to hand shake (28-300 may 頭重腳輕)
(4) It has relatively short focus distance (if you use extension tube, it can give you good macro function)
(5) It can train you to have a good sense in the relationship between angle of view and the focal length

Just wanna share my experience.  Welcome all ideas.

心急人YL


新進會員

26) 2003/11/18 12:58 
>在我心目中,一鏡走天涯的定義是:拿住一鏡乜都影,廣角28mm時影風景,中焦100mm時影人像,300mm時影花,鳥,蟲,魚

tata168大哥,
依你用途,要買28-300MM玩下啦!
再配XTRA400菲林+ FDI,SHARP到爆啦! ^^

tata168


新進會員

27) 2003/11/18 13:55 
thanks you guys, more comments , more welcome and thanks.

tata168


新進會員

28) 2003/11/18 14:54 
以上的28-300XR都有人建議用xtra 400度負片最佳,是不是因為呢支鏡的光圈不夠大,感光會慢了些.那麽用npc (160度),reala,甚至RDPIII,E100VS呢啲比較專業啲的底片,較果不及xtra400呢? 有啲丈八金剛呢..請賜較.

謝!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

心急兄:
  你話尼支鏡用xtra400度拍,曬出來會sharp到爆,咁,用以上所講的npc, reala........又會唔會sharp到癲呢?益或反較果,益或果啲npc, reala....只適合用落啲大光圈鏡呢??

xtra400度放大,微粒是否勁粗?let say 12R

其實,呢个colume的問題都幾重要的,如果npc,reala,正片配落呢支XR度效果不及xtra400的話,那麽,要think,think 了.

請各位擁躍給意見啦! 謝!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

stocklaz


新進會員

29) 2003/11/18 15:29 
不如買一個有 10 倍光學變焦的 dc 仲好啦... o 記又得, p 記又得...

攝影是要有配合的, 不計算攝影師的功力, 那好的機身, 應有好的鏡頭, 再加上好的菲林, 就會成象好啦...

chengs


新進會員

30) 2003/11/18 15:31 
FDI SHARP 到爆

心急人YL


新進會員

31) 2003/11/18 15:57 
>FDI SHARP 到爆

有時仲可以sharp到死...."假狗"(不自然)....ha...ha。 ^^
(這是最差的情況...出現在最差的沖晒店)

大哥:
xtra400本身是很好用菲林,微粒真的一流!可以全天候使用!!價錢又不貴,不如買筒親身試試先! ^^

28-300mm,建議選用400度菲林,因為它的tele焦段的光圈太細,若果手持拍照,要用上1/250或更高的快門值,那時一定要xtra400啦!況且,收細光圈至f8/f11左右,可以提升晝質麻....

心急人YL


新進會員

32) 2003/11/18 15:59 
當然,28-300雖然光圈細,但亦可以選用100度的菲林;不過你要用腳架啦!

tata168


新進會員

33) 2003/11/18 16:17 
thanks again !!

ALEXLAM


新進會員

34) 2003/11/18 17:04 
以上的28-300XR都有人建議用xtra 400度負片最佳,是不是因為呢支鏡的光圈不夠大,感光會慢了些.那麽用npc (160度),reala,甚至RDPIII,E100VS呢啲比較專業啲的底片,較果不及xtra400呢? 有啲丈八金剛呢..

What is the purpose for using professional films? Just want to have great enlargements with fine grains (or good colour retention) which 28-200 or 28-300 zooms cannot provide.
So if you want to use professional films, don"t use the amateur lens. It is a matter of wasting of money.

tata168


新進會員

35) 2003/11/18 17:23 
Dear Alexlam,

  If you said that XR lens is a amateur lens and cannot get good result from professional films . So, what is your suggestion for a better lens which being used with F80 body and can get the good result from the pro. film ? AF 28-105 D... AF 24-120 VR.... ?? Or a 135 F2 or ......?  Like 80-200 F2.8 VR....... too expensive la.

Thanks a lot.!!!!!!!!!!

香港至*NET*超人


新進會員

36) 2003/11/18 18:13 
Why amateur lens shouldn"t use pro film??
I shoot pro film even with my fungi lenses....

fatman_li


新進會員

37) 2003/11/18 19:19 
我就買左支Sigma 28-300 Macro.
主要原因係比Tamron平成千, 呢支鏡主要係求方便, 太貴好似唔值.

stocklaz


新進會員

38) 2003/11/18 19:22 
有人又會買d 好pro 同好貴的黑白菲林返屋企...

等佢過曬期才用...  好似玩紅酒咁...

冇野係唔得...

ALEXLAM


新進會員

39) 2003/11/18 19:55 
tata:
It all depends on what your purpose is. If you need convenient and handy gears, then (tamron/sigma/tokina) wide range zooms should be your choice. However if you need large scale of enlargement with fine grains, then your suggestion is correct: use LD/ED....zooms, which are heavy and bulky. One more point is that you should not expect the pros to "wander around the world with ONE lens". Besides fine grains, colour retention, professionals also treat distortion is a serious weakness in their outcome. Therefore they would not use a wide to tele zooms at all. They may use prime lenses (fixed focal lenses or different zooms of e.g. 17-35, 35-70. 70/80-200.... etc) Of course, there must be exception. Didn"t you see that a big brother has said, "I shoot pro film even with my fungi lenses...."
(Sorry, I am not a professional. I am just an amateur who takes photos just for fun. So the words above are just obtained from journals/magazines or the comments form the pros. I may be wrong.)

ALEXLAM


新進會員

40) 2003/11/18 20:01 
One more point to say is that in order to save money for the abuse of shooting, I often use konica,fuji or even agfa. I don"t know much about pro-films. HAHAHA!
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