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This is how you build up your customer base, from a very low entry level product.
Canon give consumers a taste of D-SLR, if consumers like it, they will eventually move to a more advance D-SLR model. |
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可惜10D嚇怕好多人, 包括我.
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300d的震撼價中,最可憐的還是sony吧?他可是最大的ccd供應商。
d-slr最大的成本是image sensor的價錢,現時nikon和pentax一定在迫sony的600萬素APS-size CCD降價到canon cmos sensor的水平,否則d100/d200(?)和*ist-d怎樣可賣?但如果sony 讓600萬素的APS-size CCD降價,那麼新開發的800萬素2/3" ccd和f828的生存空間又減少了.... |
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But eventually Sony ga market share is the largest. |
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Nikon also made their own "CCD" now .
So if P & O can"t make it , sony only can get it all to DC. |
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>Nikon also made their own "CCD" now
No.... The new LBCAST sensor on D2H is rumoured to be made by a Taiwan company, in collaboration with Nikon, just like the CMOS sensor on Kodak DCS14n which is made by a Beligum company exclusively for Kodak.
The LBCAST sensor is a relatively new development and the R&D cost is still very high. Canon, starting from D30 -> D60 -> 10D -> 300D, took 3 years to get the cheap CMOS technology. Nikon, and its collaborator, may need several years to get the manufacturing technology matured to bring down the cost of the sensor to today Canon"s price level. By that time, Canon might have already pulled further down of the CMOS price and might already get a big portion of the market shares.
Nikon has much catch-up works to do. |
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The new LBCAST sensor on D2H , Research and development into this type of sensor started ten years ago. http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond2h/Any way , "by Taiwan company " that is one way to get it cheap . I think beside sensor , " CPU " & integration cost should be down as more DSLR being made. |
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回之前既網友: eos 3 和 eos 1v 的確係有段距離, 不過若在 d-slr 上還有這問題嗎? 其實講真,eos3 和 eos 1v 的距離在那兒呀? 你極其量可說 1v 連拍快D(但要專用佩件)、硬淨、100% 觀景。無了嗎? 但 eos3 除以上外,他可有 45 點 的eye control, 這 eye-control 在eos3 上很有用的, 不像低級機的 眼控,很準、很快、很廣的觀景區。
其實canon 點解要在 eos3 後出多部 eos1v, 明顯知 eye-control 未能達 100% 觀景, 所以出部無咁連拍快、硬淨的機先,不想浪費暫時的技術。 留番D位作未來解決 100% 觀景 這問題後, 再出一部比 eos1v 強的機。(起馬我相信及這樣猜)
但當以上的技術解決後的今日, 還有需要出部 eos 3d 嗎?我相信機會不大。 因為如果攪掂既話, 不如出部 eos-1super 又連拍快D、硬淨、100% 觀景、eye-control 的機嗎?
所以,我這樣想。 |
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XP? 無辦法,公司都轉晒XP,唔用都要用... |
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EOS1V之所以冇眼控,是因為EOS3的眼控在當時來說,並未成熟(現時EOS30雖然比EOS3好一點,但不是「完美」),而當時日本工程師認為,1V是一部完美的相機,不應將一種不完美的技術注入其內,所以抽出了眼控功能,取而代之是硬淨、100% 觀景、防水等,以全天候作賣點,吸引不少專業的用家。 |
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完全應同,所以我覺得現在根本無籍口出多部 eos-3d 囉。 |
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The new EF-S mount lens, 18-35mm f3.5-5.6 & 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 are not compatible with existing the EF mount of Canon EOS bodies. In order to balance the optical quality and cost, Canon designers extended the lens closer to the image sensor (back end of lens is longer). Also, the reflex mirror of 300D is smaller that it won"t hit the lens. Please read the news from DPREVIEW for details: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0308/03082004canonlenses.asp |
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The 300D is really just a matter of jamming the market with products. Canon had the might to saturate all market sector and thus capture market share. But by all that"s reasonable. Should you expect to have just the body ( which is already 8k ). You will need the lens, and etc... The total system cost is still high, but not high enough to deter. Yet high enough to make money and garner more business.
The market is IMHO greater tha most of us would agree. As I tend to see a lot of new people get drawn in, but I see them going for the like of Minolta A-1, Fuji F-7000 which by all accopunt and total system cost still way more comfortable for most users ( and quality enough too ).
So most of us are saying they want quality also. Yeah , me too, that"s why my latest investment is the Dimage 5400 Film scanner ..... and my plan is; next; a good A3 / A4 size printer ..... Oh yeah its expensive to print your own, but I like the control and Liberty to do whatever I like. DSLR is surely fun, and certainly the way to come. But IF I don"t NEED one now, why bother.
" To be or Not to be, that is the Question "
I want one, but I do not need one ..................... >.~
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To dearkaki 部二手D60要$7500, 不過玩下玩下, 有手感又係黑色...都好好 (自我安慰一番)
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If quality is a must, get 120 film camera.
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I think that when D200 release, 8Mp CCD from Sony / 1.5x / CAM1500 / 9/11 point AF sensor ? 25-segment Matrix sensor ( F75 ) ? Price around $14000-$15000 and then D100 will be a beginner level product. and price drop to $8000-$9000 to flight with 300D and 10D. |
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帝國大廈,
I agree that the chance for Canon to launch a EOS 3D is slim, but I still hope it will, or alternatively a new version of 10D which solves its focusing problem (how about calling it a 20D ?).
Btw, I guess Canon may no longer launch SLR with eye-control as it may take a lot more research money to make it "perfect", why bother to do that when eye-control function is not the main reason that people buy that SLR.
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APS SENSOR再高MPIX會面對鏡頭解像度不足問題, 現在的6MPIX SENSOR在23mm寬位上有3000點, 即是 130pixel/mm, 亦即是65lpmm, 要充分利用6mpix就 必須要那枝鏡有65lpmm的解像度, 定焦鏡不難, 但 zoom鏡或定焦全開/全收時就有困難. 如果推高至 12mpix, 23mm內有4000點, 就要用87lpmm的鏡頭. 解決此問題方法只有一個, 就是sensor面積加大及 重新設計鏡頭, 單單只換上更高mpix的組件是無法 真實提高解像的.
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But how about the market driving force. We are driven by Intel/AMD to upgrade our PC, even though we can use a CPU 2-3 years ago to browse the Internet and do Word/Excel. Of course, we are partially driven by the CPU upgrade of the server market.
Therefore, I think a 12mpix APS sensor may appear because of the market/competition.
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