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Leica出問題的是相機部,工業及科學器材上的生產沒有問題.公司不會因停產相機而關閉.勞斯來斯也賣掉汽車的生產權,但飛機引擎才是她的重要生產,一台747引擎價值以億元,賣多少部銀影,銀雲...才有這數字. |
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>> 我也不會買2部NOBLEX, 一套617, 一套612, 3部45機, 4套120系統了.
超不如人 胸中只有半點墨
人無鬥志 身邊常說中片幅
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中片幅好呀, 120菲林便宜又大張, 鏡頭不太貴, 質素通通有, 只是要多點體力攜大, 不適合老者及幼兒. |
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off-topic.
我老爸之前就係有大便困難問題, 唔係去唔到, 不過比較辛苦, 後來都係唔得要入院, 結果是直腸癌, 到發現時已經有差唔多半條直腸有事, 即做手術, 當時已經打定輸數, 怕散開及直腸廢武功, 醫生說很多中年人誤以為老了身體差唔夠氣力去大便, 其實有可能是直腸先病, 結果好人有好報, 得番半條都可以正常活著, 不用陀便袋, 而且亦冇擴散. 這大部份歸功於瑪麗醫院的優質濟世, 小部份是老媽三催四請要我老爸到醫院檢查, 及高醫療救回一命.
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乜你冇私隱咩，老豆差的冇咗你都出來講，
真係服咗你呀，每日幾十個貼, 不就是回饋人類嗎。
老豆講咗通櫃，幾時講埋娘親通___？
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你把口真是臭. 及早醫醫佢, 以免口腔癌.
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>>幾時講埋娘親通___？
受害人反對，你笨，超123要作嘢答。
我笨，超123也反對佢都未講埋娘親通___？
就話真是臭仲口腔癌.
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收藏相機的人具有强烈占有心理同占有慾古今中外。
擁有徠卡的人,其他人眼中都存著迷霧與神話,還有許多不正確觀念和誤導,其中有很多謠言甚至來自很多發燒或收藏家,這類人可稱為玩家,對他們而言相機的性能並不是那麽重要。
有沒有經濟能力絕對是主觀和比較性的。
曾經擁有你才能知道徠卡的光學機械是否優於其他廠牌。
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不一定要擁手, 許多汽車及hifi report, 都只係基本數以小時計的使用就有結論.
而機械結構是一門耐用科學, 可惜很多相機(不指定leica), 用家都只使用了數以百小時, 對相對老應有的機械老化歷程, 實是風馬牛不相及, 談甚麼機械及耐用, 根本就是風馬牛不相及. 無可否認leica有它的優勝之處, 但與之神化, 再在實用性上大做文章, 忽視它根本問題, 如Ｍ系鏡頭群不足, Ｒ系機身與他牌電子機無異, 數碼支援及LO-TECH閃燈等, 更不用說AF, 這可能對某些拍攝不成問題, 但在廿一世紀眼光就是問題, 所以才不好賣. 最後神話無限誇大, 就只有一點成立, 又從新在這點(機械)再出發造神話? 醒覺吧!
以LEICA的光學成就, 本應是世界三界, 如果有日它做了DSLR可用的鏡頭, 我也投降買了. |
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以LEICA的光學成就, 本應是世界三甲, 如果有日它做了DSLR可用的鏡頭, 我也投降買了. |
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I used to have some Leica. Leica have some good lenses and some good cameras. However, evey brand get some good lenses and some good cameras. I don't think any brand is better than any other brands in general. Each brand has it own strenght and weakness.
I will take photos as long as I have a camera on hands, no matter it is leica, canon, hasselblad, schneider, seagull or even pinhole.
Camera is just a tool. I don't think Ansel Adams has had better cameras or lenses than most photographer nowadays.
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AA曾經有HASSY喎, 好過好多玩古董既人. |
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Most of the famous photos from AA are not from HASSY.
HASSY seemed to be his tools when he was too old to carry the 8x10 camera. |
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lol, guys,, but thats just what's Rolls Royce and Leica been smart at ( at their coportae level ) Rolls Royce Cars is an independent company from Rolls Royce the Coporation and Leica Camera an independent operation from Leica Group.
You know what, their coporate board of directors know enough that those 2 are really orphaned sector and simply are not contributing to the whoel coporate group and its far simple to simply Sold them of. Which is the case anyway.
While I do not adminable to those who voice in unrespectful manner. but Mr. 趣逸閒情, Lets also reflect on the fact that most Leica supporter on this thread are very much Leicaphillies unwilling to accpet the fact that Leica Camera is running a bad business which is also truth also. I am myself a Leica owner and user too. I certainly do not find its Optical quality neccessary better than others. Its craftsmanship is certainly 1st grade. But as along time Leica user, I also are plainly awrae of Leica's own arrogance and shortsightness in market awareness and product capability against actual market need. Keep Brandishing How being a Leica owner only knew is something akin to disrespectfulness to others all the same.
And may we go back to the original thread, we are talking about Leica as a viable business and its capability to survive as a viable Mfr on the current market. We are not talking about Whether Leica made good or bad lens and camera ( thats another issue anyway ), and despite what had been said or what, Leica Camera AG is still far from away from its trouble.
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>以LEICA的光學成就, 本應是世界三甲, 如果有日它做了DSLR可用的鏡頭, 我也投降買了.
Leica R lenses can be used on EOS. |
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I know some Leica can be used in some SLR, but this is not the same at manufacturing lens for that camera system. In real life, I also interested in Leica R and want to see what sort of goodies that attracted so many fans around. But then, just want a long term trial and not owning. |
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canon DSLR 差唔多係百搭數碼135鏡機背,亦都好似照妖鏡,經佢一照,所有菜奶毒全部清晒囉!! |
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最後神話無限誇大, 就只有一點成立, 又從新在這點(機械)再出發造神話? 醒覺吧!
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一直看著類似這種言論 仿彿是入世受難的宗教家一直在那大喊著
"天國近了 信上帝得永生喔" 變成 "徠卡的末日近了 信超人得永生喔"
你說的話也是神話 "另類神棍說的話"咧
不知你啥時要出家啊 一天到晚唱衰別人在用的器材 沒人用徠卡你才能升天嗎
真是別人吃包子 你在旁邊喊燒 自己覺得徠卡沒什特點就別去碰它別一天到晚跟人大喊"別用徠卡"
喊到喉嚨破了 地球照樣轉 相片照樣拍 徠卡照樣用
等全世界都沒半支底片可用時再說吧 等到那天誰還記得你超人說過啥話
因為那一天還早咧
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果然忍無可忍,老羞成怒,破口大罵洩憤耶!! |
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超人的話又有何重要呢? 只有那被刺中的弱點, 才會覺得那是多重要.
全世界都再沒有底片時, leica依然可以再用著, 插在DSLR也好, 安放在博物館也好, 也是其用途, 只是這用途有否如神話的不滅, 看倌自有定論.
不用LEICA有一個好處, 可以買更多的器材, 對於拍攝及創作就更有利啦. |
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老叟, 呢篇野橫跨香港論壇同Leica版, 好多Leica版既長期讀者淨係o係Leica版睇到, 一定會覺得比人踩埸, 所以出句聲可以理解, 不如你又試下去Nikon版鬧Nikon, 去Canon版鬧Canon, o個度既長期讀者一樣會出聲, 唔關係唔係Leica友既事.
不過你呢句"果然忍無可忍,老羞成怒,破口大罵洩憤耶!!"用得"果然"呢兩個字, 就知你對Leica友有偏見啦. |
