奢侈品的定義人人唔同, 影相一部傻瓜機又得, 一部45/810亦得, 買leica來體會甚麼? 我只知銀行戶口少了最前的一個位.....

.ps 如果leica用家的相是想表達lecia的偉大, 恕我廿年功力不外如事, 我不看這作品絕無損失, 是多方面無損失, 甚至少看為妙. 抱不開相機的角色, 攝影人永遠都只是相機廠家的奴隸!

PENTAX也好不了多少. 但攝影人如在作品是以機器行先, 小弟真的不才吧.

.PS A85及A135, 良久沒用, 發霉也未定, 我的作品很「屎」, 相機只是我的工具.

>有些東西長得真是簡單，真的是太簡單了。
>貶低別人，會讓你的人格更高尚否？

??????

每次一說到Leica, Contax等牌子, 一定會有一些比較激的討論,
其實每個牌子都有它的愛好者, 擁護者, 只要用它的人用起來充滿信心, 用得開心, 什麼牌子又有什麼關係, 別人又何必去理會他人的器材呢,
我相信一部 1D Mark II 一定比一部 Leica MP 來得貴, 一支 400mm F2.8 一定比一支 Leica 50mm F1.0 要更多的金錢去換來, 但 1D 及 400mm 卻常缺貨.
在今天, Leica & Contax 已經不是遙不可及的器材, 我相信很多不是這兩個牌子的用家, 器材的代價比一些Leica用家更多呢.
我曾說過, LV 的手袋不一定比街頭的手袋好用, 但用者覺得Happy, 別人又為何要去多加說話?
只要用得自己的器材開心, 不用猜測別人買東西的內心動機.
Leica 是不是倒閉我並不介意, 因我只對 Leica 的舊鏡有興趣, 不會"供奉leica為神", 所以不用"折衷順變".
我贊同超人所言, 攝影是以人為主, 什麼器材都可影出驚世之作及無聊影像.

LEICA MP一年賣多少部? 1D2又賣又少? 而400/2.8缺貨大有理由.
1D2太好賣而生產不來, 400/2.8太少人用, 無存貨可以理解. LEICA東東有存貨賣不了, 經常有貨有何稀奇.
再過5年10年, 我看PENTAX及MINOLTA都會倒閉, 只有NIKON及CANON吧了. 這一如CPU, 不就是只有INTEL及AMD? POWER PC有新版, 但MAC也不用了. 商業世界已經不是質量高低的角力, 更重要是市場策略, 現在DC/DSLR大賣, 正如當年CD機大賣一樣, 相信當年九成九人都認為LP沒日已到, 結果十多年後的今日, 唱盤及LP才是主角, THORENS, SME, LINNS及唱頭, 都是玩厭了CD的人的新寵兒.
可是LEICA求財若渴之時, 根本只要灌水, 沒有具體方案解決困局, 這才是續命的根本問題. 試問誰個商家會花錢給LEICA消費.....

F5太大部, 用這筆錢貫MAMIYA 7好了.

現在徠卡最需要採補。要採補，自然要找其他財團跟它翻雲覆雨一番，然後射它個十億八億－－歐元。雖然，如果不作好預備工夫，難免會產生孽種，例如有網友提到的LEEca。
因此，題目不算全錯。

Li Ka Shing ...... Li plus Lecia become Licia......still work......

Hong Kong chi "net" superman is the superhero and he wrote:
" 奢侈品的定義人人唔同, 影相一部傻瓜機又得, 一部45/810亦得, 買leica來體會甚麼? 我只知銀行戶口少了最前的一個位......ps 如果leica用家的相是想表達lecia的偉大, 恕我廿年功力不外如事, 我不看這作品絕無損失, 是多方面無損失, 甚至少看為妙. 抱不開相機的角色, 攝影人永遠都只是相機廠家的奴隸!"
and he continue to write: "LEICA MP一年賣多少部? 1D2又賣又少? 而400/2.8缺貨大有理由.
1D2太好賣而生產不來, 400/2.8太少人用, 無存貨可以理解. LEICA東東有存貨賣不了, 經常有貨有何稀奇. (it is because Lecia's price is raised quickly...so dealer stock up its goods to earn more later...it always have stock but the dealer would not sell it to you if he consider you not a Lecia user....) 再過5年10年, 我看PENTAX及MINOLTA都會倒閉, 只有NIKON及CANON吧了. (There were Leitz lense made in 1950 (over 50 years old) sold in ebay and people around the world buy this stuffs....this is fact....anyone could conduct search in ebay)  這一如CPU, 不就是只有INTEL及AMD? POWER PC有新版, 但MAC也不用了. (Leitz camera or lense are craftmanship... please don't compare it to anything made in computer controlled production line) 商業世界已經不是質量高低的角力, 更重要是市場策略, 現在DC/DSLR大賣, 正如當年CD機大賣一樣, 相信當年九成九人都認為LP沒日已到, 結果十多年後的今日, 唱盤及LP才是主角, THORENS, SME, LINNS及唱頭, 都是玩厭了CD的人的新寵兒.
可是LEICA求財若渴之時, 根本只要灌水, 沒有具體方案解決困局, 這才是續命的根本問題. 試問誰個商家會花錢給LEICA消費.....

Please give a fair comment to Leica company or its user....

倒了就算了  基本上來卡的族群就是來卡的族群  來卡倒了  其他廠商可能也不會有感覺
因為現在攝影入門大都去接觸ｄｓｌｒ了  來卡或許就成為有點年紀的人耳中的名牌相機吧
不過到是也沒多少人摸過來卡吧  哈哈哈  要像我這麼瘋才會吧
我只是欣賞他們的理念  我算固執  並不認為一定得要接受那種不成熟的ｄｓｌｒ產品
一個有理念的產品不被世人接受那就是商業上的失敗  沒辦法  該倒就是要倒
但是會倒的並不代表他的產品就有問題   就像一個人太堅持就會被視為固執
但不堅持   不見很多ｄｓｌｒ或ｄｃ用戶已經抱怨連連了嗎  時間越久  恐怕問題就會越多
為什麼  因為售價越壓越低成本越壓越低  惡性循環而已

- 欣賞他們的理念 - Unfortunately I think that is exactly what Leica been so much of a failure in the market. They might have a vision and a stance, but that stance and vision is amounting to nothing for real world. Leica, much like Rolls Royce, insist on quality craftsmanship, and they both do very well on that. However, too much insistance on one area of a product and fail to improve & adopt for cahnging time and changing need on others ( and in fact fail to even maintain the one they esteem ) is their downfall. The quality of their product cannot hide the fact that their product is way out of time and are no longer market leading technology as they used to be. Not to mention they are priced but for a status instead of value. The market had spoken , and that's why Leica is in such state.

Indeed their product had problem, problem not with their quality, but problem in their actual value for usefulness, their true capability for the price and their marketing position. Its easy for Leica diehards to keep planting the notion that Leica is there with everlasting quality. The sad fact is others who are selling at equal price bracket can claim as such. Blaming others do not negate the fact that Leica had but put themselves into this current position, and I for one are not surprised that there are resolution against the re-Capitalization plan. If I am a shareholder, I question what Leica can do and what will Leica do to make the re-capitalization a viable long term business proposition. So far none can do .....

In the end, I do not think the issue need to be addressed to have anything to do with other Mfr or Digital or what. Its about what Leica, the company , and the management can and willing to do in the future.