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hsu4886


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版上有17-35 28-70 小黑 85/1.4等討論區不過獨缺17-55這支.小弟也來蓋個家讓大家貼貼圖以及討論^^
由於17-35 17-55這兩支哪個好?在各版面都已經長期有著左右派之爭,那個好已經是老話題了所以就不再討論免的惹來一堆口水.

記得去年剛接觸DSLR時不久就購入此鏡,當時也是像無頭蒼蠅般到處看著討論區聽各位大大說哪個鏡頭優等有的沒的,最毒的還是這句"用Kit鏡拍起來的感覺和DC差不多,用17-55這支拍起來比較有DSLR的感覺"..
結果我就真的傻傻的買下去了@_@....
但是..結果....
完全不是這麼一回事啊!!!
拍出來的照片還是很鳥Orz...
因此也深深了解到鏡頭只是一個工具,一張照片拍攝者所能決定的遠比你想像的多,也比鏡頭所能決定的多!
之後也因為希望與底片機共用所以換成了17-35,後來又因為底片機不常用所以換成了12-24.
快一年過後終於和17-55再一次
推薦者: 慘死在版主手的NeZeki

Bus Fan


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41) 2006/10/25 16:31 
Resolution / Sharpness

Sharp! Sharp! Sharp! It is the sharpest zoom lens I have ever used! For all focal range, f:2.8 is sharp, although not as sharp as razor, definitely usable. Image contrast is slightly reduced with wide open but much improve after f:4. It is razor sharp from f:5.6 till f:13 with the best at f:8. Sharpness start to fall from and after f:16. Some people complaints it is pretty soft at tele-end. But my personal experience there is no significant difference of sharpness between the tele-end and wide-end. This may be due to the samples variant and I was lucky to get a good sample. Or just because I use D2H with relative low resolution of 4.1 Mega pixels and just could not be able to squeeze every detail out of the lens.


Overall conclusions

As I mentioned, it was this lens that made me go for DX format DSLR. So I did expect a lot from this lens. However, it is also the only lens in that time offer the best and only solution for me if I switch to DSLR. And my desire to was very high. So it was also this lens that made me willing to compromise.

One of my largest compromises about this lens is the flare issue. As this is an all-around lens to me, I need this lens to be able to shoot in very adverse lighting conditions. Pervious experience and impression of flare control by the Nikkors offered me the confidence about them. So I didn’t expect this lens will perform such badly to suppress flare. I even have to persuade myself in such manner: “Well, it’s not too bad at all. At least it won’t turn the whole scene into a dead-white!” I have no other better choice but have to made use to it.

Be honest, purple fringe doesn’t bother me very much. But I just think it is ridicules that a digitally specialized lens designed by such large optical expertise will cause purple fringe problem!

Apart from these problems, other drawbacks of this lens really don’t bother me too much. I agreed that the barrel-type distortion at wide-end may be a little bit scary to some demanding person. But I just can live with it. However, on other hand, the sharpness, the vignetting contral, the constructions and the AF performance are truly make it a professional lens. If you ask me would I still choose this lens even there are more competitors on the market nowadays? The answer is: "very properly yes!" (I fact, I'm now very interested to the Tokina 16-50 mm f:2.8 DX, which is still not available on the market untill this fall.)


Extras

Many people worring about is it worth to invest on a DX lens given that we can't rule out Nikon may announce full-frame DSLR completely in the future. Well, let me tell you more. It is a DX lens which is not "recomment" on film camera. But they share the same F-mount and the fact is the image circle of lens can cover the 24 x 36 mm frame at the focal length of 28 - 55 mm if on filter attached. Think up yourself.

Personally, f:2.8 is not large enough for me. With the 1.5x corp factor, the actual focal length has to be shorter in order to restore the same view angle that we used to be on 135 format. One of the drawback is the increase in depth-of-view and become less able to "melt down" the out-of-focus subjects. We have seen Tamron introduced their 28-75 mm f:2.8 and its APS-C countapart 18-50 mm f:2.8 with filter diameter of 67 mm with the aids of XR technology. I always have such kind of fantasy that this Nikkor DX 17-55 mm also incorporate such kind of XR technology, or thing alike, but remaining the universal professional 77 mm filter diameter to expand its aperture to at least f:2.0 or even f:1.8! Am I demanding to much?

推薦者: dcyang, fishy

dcyang


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42) 2006/10/25 18:01 
Bus Fan 兄,

寫的真棒!
乍看之下頗有 KenRockwell 的味道, 不過您比他客觀也客氣多了 :)

不知道 BusFan 兄可有興趣也來篇 AFS 28-70 的評論?

這有一篇討論恭迎大駕...

http://forum.photosharp.com.tw/FORUM/ArticleList.aspx?ForumId=4&TopicId=112054

Bus Fan


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43) 2006/10/25 22:34 
見笑了!現在看著看著還發現錯字連篇呢!

此鏡我用了一年多快兩年了,以上的評論絕對是個人使用經驗和心得,主觀到不得了!就它的抗耀光和色差表現,小弟也毫不客氣地盡情鞭撻!

迄今為止我還是覺得此鏡好壞參半,Nikon 並未盡力造好此鏡,更遺憾的是它已是同級中最好,市面上還沒有比它更好的選擇!要是售價降低 20% 我就覺得比較公道!

AF-S 28-70 嘛...說來讖愧,小弟是用 Sigma 的... >_<

dcyang


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44) 2006/10/25 22:50 
呵, 錯字無傷大雅啦!
小弟可是特地印下來, 泡杯咖啡跑到公司的休息室認真地仔細拜讀哩!

先前便已久仰大名, 只是無緣見到您的作品.

小弟好奇一件事, 您說少拍人像, 又慣用全幅 28-70 焦段, 請問您作品題材多為何者呢?

像我大部分拍我兒子, 28-70 在等效 1.5X 變成 42-105 的視角,
正好適合在 2~3 米的距離掌握這隻 100 公分高的小魔鬼.

若非焦段太過重複, 其實也滿想弄支 17-55 來體驗一下這 DX 時代的標準鏡皇.

最近因為 28-70 的 AFS 似乎快掛了, 正在重新思考 17-55 這檔事,
看到您的大作給了我不少寶貴的參考價值.

您若有 BLOG, 可否分享網址?

dcyang


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45) 2006/10/25 23:04 
補充一下, 剛剛又回頭看您先前的大作, 關於 F80/F100 的心得,
真是心有戚戚焉.

小弟第一台 AF SLR 正是 F60, 四年後升級 F80. 最大的原因也是景深預覽.
當時最哈的是 F100, 無奈預算不夠,
差價兩萬多台幣我選擇留給 18-35 以及 SB-28.

即使現在已完全使用 D70s, F80 跟 18-35 我依然捨不得賣掉...

離題了離題了, F80 還真是一把難得的好機子, 您的評論字字句句說到我心坎裡去了...

hsu4886


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46) 2006/10/25 23:47 
唉,可惜英文不好看不太懂T_T;

fishy


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47) 2006/10/27 14:31 
有沒有大大有更多其他的分享?
小弟也正在考慮此鏡,只嫌價錢略貴
和恐怕不久將來 nikon 會發佈改良版!
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