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moveer


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爬了一些文章後,想要買70-180這支鏡頭。結果市面上好像都沒有貨的樣子。問了榮泰有貨嗎,答案是訂了半年也不保證有貨。請問若是訂水貨的話,有沒有可能比較早拿到呢。

kuankuoyun2002


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1) 2006/01/21 00:59 
Heard that Tong-Ho in TPE still has one.

kuankuoyun2002


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2) 2006/01/21 01:24 

kuankuoyun2002


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3) 2006/01/21 01:25 

kuankuoyun2002


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4) 2006/01/21 01:25 

kuankuoyun2002


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5) 2006/01/21 01:26 
找一找就有三支

chinaned


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6) 2006/01/21 02:17 
小黑三

050


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7) 2006/01/21 10:09 
我是賣掉小黑三換70-180的
原因是
1.小黑太重
2.小黑的遮光罩不易攜帶
3.小黑無micro
4.小黑的邊緣畫質不如70-180
以前要帶小黑加105micro
現在只要帶70-180就夠了,使用頻率比小黑多太多了
但小黑的恆定2.8大光圈於拍人像時便利
是70-180無法取代的
拍人像多----------------小黑三
拍生態多----------------70-180

推薦者: kuankuoyun2002

kenkuo2006


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8) 2006/01/21 10:53 
你沒提到用途

小黑三適合低光源下大光圈作業
拍人恐怕要思考一下、1.3kg的重量可不適合一般正常人的臂力手持拍攝太久
拍人像還是買顆85mm F1.8/1.4D即可

70-180mm Micro是微距鏡
當然以拍攝微距為主、而且他也是Nikon唯一一支變焦的專業微距鏡頭
比起一般的定焦微距鏡頭取景便利度大大提升許多
光圈稍小、但在Micro多半需要縮小光圈作業增加景深的前提下
這個問題並不大
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wangjj


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9) 2006/01/21 15:15 
我曾經擁有2隻小黑和70-180 後來小黑都賣掉了 原因就是太重 不利手持 正片一放80吋就看到晃動 上單角架是最好選則 人像 85或105dc 135dc都是好選 不必單念小黑 還有 微距鏡設計比較特殊 景深也很淺 但像場比較平 小心一點還是分別的出來 不注意看是看不出來

kuankuoyun2002


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10) 2006/01/21 17:09 
Re: PMA 2006: Will Nikon introduce any new lenses?
B Pedit - 1 week ago
I'm pretty sure they'll announce an updated 70-180 macro. AF-S IF VR f/3.5 for $750

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Byrne  

B Pedit wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure they'll announce an updated 70-180 macro. AF-S IF
> VR f/3.5 for $750
> --
> Byrne

If they do that at this price, with the original image quality of the 70-180, it could be a killer for the 70-200mm, because the 70-180 is sharper than the 70-200mm, but slooow.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=16700604

有人認為70-180mm 比 70-200mm 還要銳利,但對焦很慢.

wangjj


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11) 2006/01/21 18:15 
微距鏡銳利是正常的 要注意的是調性較硬 最好加柔焦 用100或200微距鏡來拍人像也有相同問題

YOYO1020


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12) 2006/01/21 19:09 
拍人像多----------------小黑三
拍生態多----------------70-180
+1
小弟亦擁有70-180與適馬100-300/f4 在遠距離(15m)拍攝測試下(180mm端)銳利度70-180竟輸給100-300 這讓小弟有點傷心(同光圈多次測試皆同)!!不知有無大大測試70-180與小黑三在望遠端之情形為何??

kuankuoyun2002


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13) 2006/01/22 06:13 
Performance
A macro lens should first and foremost be sharp at close distances. This lens passes that test with flying colors (see right column). Macro work at all focal lengths and apertures is tack sharp in the center, with only a hint of softness wide open in the corners at longer focal lengths. Indeed, the lens is so sharp that it's relatively easy to tell when your aperture is so small that diffraction effects are occuring. At apertures of f/22 and smaller, edges lose just a bit of their distinctness. Above f/45 (yes, with the variable aperture at the closest focus point you can get above f/45 with this lens), the diffraction effects are noticeable enough for me to avoid those apertures.

Some folk will be displeased by the fact that the lens can't reach 1:1 magnification (on a 35mm body). I'm not. Just get a Nikon 5T or 6T close-up lens (or a Kenko extension tube set) and you can take this lens beyond 1:1 with very good results. I was particularly impressed with the results with the 5T, though holding any depth of field at these focal lengths with greater than 1:1 magnification takes Herculean efforts (remember, that diffraction at really small apertures can take away what you gain).

At "normal" shooting distances the 70-180mm turns in a respectable above-average performance. Wide open or fully stopped down at infinity focus the lens is ever so slightly soft compared to the professional telephoto zooms. At shorter focus distances or mid-range apertures, the results are indistinguishable between this and other Nikon tele zooms. To put it more concretely: the 70-180mm is a better lens than, say, either of the 70-210mm lenses Nikon's produced, better than the consumer 80-200mm f/4.5-5.6, and at least as good as the 70-300mm ED. It's not as good as the 80-200mm f/2.8 AF-S lens at 80mm and f/4.5 or 180mm and f/5.6, though. I've read reports from others that thought this lens was too soft to be used as a normal telephoto zoom, but my sample doesn't support that. Indeed, since I can't carry everything, I've taken to leaving my 80-200mm f/2.8 AF-S at home unless I know I need it (for fast focus or bigger aperture).

The bad news is not particularly bad. The smallish aperture does have an impact on focusing speed, although the 70-180mm isn't the slowest lens Nikon has produced in this range it's a long way from being the fastest. Setting the limit switch makes for a big improvement, especially when the lens is used for "normal" shooting: it may hunt in low-light conditions, but it won't hunt far.

Teleconverters Nikon recommends for this lens are the TC-201 and TC-14A. Personally, I don't think the compromised results justify the use, but if you need to extend the focal length in a pinch, these are the ones you'll want to use.


http://www.bythom.com/70180Macrolens.htm

kuankuoyun2002


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14) 2006/01/22 06:47 
Ai AF Zoom Nikkor ED 80~200mm F2.8D

最短撮影距離    1.8m [1.5m:マクロ時]
最大撮影倍率    1/7.4[1/5.9:マクロ時]

Ai AF Zoom Micro Nikkor ED 70~180mm F4.5~F5.6D

最短撮影距離    0.37m
最大撮影倍率    1/1.32

http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/lens/af/zoom/index.htm

這两支鏡頭的最佳的工作範圍是設計在不同的區域,所以遠距離的東西不是70-180mm的強項.





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kuankuoyun2002


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15) 2006/01/22 08:49 
Nikkor 70-180mm f/4.5-5.6D AF ED Micro ( 2 pics )

Nikon D70 ,Nikkor 70-180mm f/4.5-5.6D AF ED Micro
1/60s f/16.0 at 180.0mm iso640 with Flash hand held

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=14992767

大龍1235


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16) 2006/01/22 09:16 
遠距離的東西不是70-180mm的強項.
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所以70-180mm就是只較適合微距專用,想微距風景通吃的朋友不要對70-180mm寄予太多厚望??

kuankuoyun2002


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17) 2006/01/22 16:21 
EDレンズを採用することで色収差を抑え、高画質を実現。草花から昆虫、小動物などまでアップの写真がこれ一本で楽しめる。
You hold down chromatic aberration by the fact that the ED lens is adopted, actualizing high picture quality. From the grass flower to the insect and the small animal etc. it can enjoy the photograph of rise at this one.
ズーム全域で約0.37mまで被写体に接近することが可能(ワーキングディスタンスは約12cm)。最大撮影倍率は1/3.2倍(70mm時)、約1/1.32倍(180mm時)。
At zoom all to approximately 0.37m approaching to subject as for possible (working distance approximately 12cm). As for maximum photographing magnification ratio 1/3.2 times (at the time of 70mm), approximately 1/1.32 times (at the time of 180mm).
撮影距離目盛とともにワーキングディスタンスも表示。
http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/lens/af/zoom/telephoto/ai_af_micro_ed_70-180mmf45-f56d.htm
在nikon imaging是介紹70-180mm在macro攝影上的便利性.

kuankuoyun2002


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18) 2006/01/22 16:50 
At "normal" shooting distances the 70-180mm turns in a respectable above-average performance.
在"正常" 攝影的距離70-180mm 有水平之上的平均表現。

Wide open or fully stopped down at infinity focus the lens is ever so slightly soft compared to the professional telephoto zooms.
用大光圈向無限遠拍攝到的影像要比用專業的長鏡頭一樣是大光圈向無限遠所拍攝得的影像來得軟.

http://www.bythom.com/70180Macrolens.htm

t_manga6073


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19) 2006/01/22 17:01 
上星期剛跟台中調了一支,
(由於高雄沒貨)
雖然貴,
不過拍起來蠻順手的!!

t_manga6073


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20) 2006/01/22 17:02 
抱歉........
忘了說
我調的是70-180
因為我喜歡拍微距大於人像
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