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TO:門神同志
週六上阿里山否....? ..拍櫻花ㄛ...
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報告Bill學長:
星期六日是親職時間, 不能亂跑....
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星期六日是親職時間, 不能亂跑....
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偶是早在 一ㄍ月就跟大人請假ㄌ...
下回有ㄐ會 ㄅ... |
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請教哈蘇眾親友:
沒用過200系列(202 203 205) 所以問一下
200系列的機身有內建曝光錶,看資料說除主要適用FE系列鏡頭之外,也可用CF CFI 的鏡頭,但只限於快門;不知這樣意味著就無法進行測光??或也可以進行測光,只不過要完全手動?? 另外資料沒提到C鏡,C鏡可以適用於200系列機身??
謝謝!! |
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小弟也很想瞭解在200系列機身, 應如何操作CFi鏡頭; 我的理解為FE與CFE具電子接點, 可傳送光圈資料, 供200系列機身測光系統運算出焦平快門的速度, 達成測光與快門連動的動作;
CF及CFi的鏡頭則無此電子接點, 所以無法回送光圈值給200系列機身進行測光與快門連動的動作; 因為小弟沒有CF/CFi的鏡頭, 所以很想瞭解在200系列機身, 應如何實際操作CFi鏡頭的經驗; |
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Hello,
I live in Hong Kong, I'm sorry that I don't know how to type in chinese.
I'm a 203FE User, I have F, Fe, CF, CFi, CFE lens.
When use with F/CF/CFi lens, you need to use stop-down method (use the depth of field preview push button to achieve it) for correct explosure when use 203FE internal metering system.
steps are as follows:
1. Lock the shutter the CF lens. F lens no need because no shutter.
2. push the depth of field preview button (it is call stop-down
method), then focus and press body shutter. you will get the
correct expersure using 203FE internal meter system.
You are very inconvenience when you stop-down the aperture to F8
or F11, very diffcult to focus.
Most users will full open aperture for focusing,
step-down to desired aperature to fire the shutter.
I shared with my experience after used few month of the 203Fe with CFi lens and F lens. (i don't use stop down method with F lens or CF lens) For Example used with 50mm CFI F4 lens, I need to use F8 to get more sharp of the backgroud. Step as follow:
1. reset the depth of field preview to full open, turn the aperature ring of the 50mm lens to F8, even turn to F8, you will see the apearture still full open. use the Explosure compensation button (two upward arrow button and downward button locate at the left hand side) to add 2 EV unit, you will get the correct explosure. because different between F4 and F8 is 2 EV units. you want to use F11, then add 3 EV units
It will benefit you no need to stop down for correct explosure, and have full open apeature for focusing. It is very difficult to focus when stop down to F8.
2. CF lens same as F lens, but need to lock the shutter of the lens.
3. C lens also can use with 203Fe, set the lens shutter to B
but need to attention don't release the cameras to fast, hold the shutter release a while or at least one second.
JYang and Jack-WU, Please try this method use with CF/F/CFi lens.
Very useful. My english not so good. Hope you understand what i said.
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想再請教 小毅或門神大大兄 關於CW Winder :
最近拿到一份Hasselblad 503cw 的目錄,上面有503cw+ CW Winder 的圖片,發覺Winder 底下有一塊板子非常靠近對焦圈(如果使用對焦圈很靠近機身的鏡頭如50mm or 80mm鏡頭),當我們用右手拿Winder, 左手撐住機身並用大拇指及中指轉動對焦環時,我懷疑中指可能會被Winder的那塊板子卡到而不方便對焦.....
不曉得小毅或門神大大兄實際使用CW Winder時有沒有踫到這個問題 ?? 謝謝賜教 !!
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To:ewong8
Thanks for telling me about these messages. You mean the C lens are also fit to 200series body??
Just I ask a camerashop-boss yesterday,he told me the the C lens "can't" used to 200series body!!
But,I think you have actually experiences, You must right!!
Thanks again!! |
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eWong兄,
非常感謝您如此詳細而且完整的說明, 使我對203FE使用CFi鏡有兩種方法可以運用,小弟已Copy下來準備細讀^^;
小弟喜風景區攝影, 購買203FE Body後, 卻被CFi 60與CFi 100這兩支鏡頭畫質吸引,但是一直不知其操作行性!
(小弟鏡頭CFE40,FE50, FE 60~120,FE110,CFE 180,CFE 250SA,CFE 350SA ) |
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Jack-Wu, C lens can use with 203fe,205Fcc and 205Tcc.
Since the C lens don't have the F lock (lens shtter lock), so you must set the lens to B stop. The problem come out. When you press the body shutter, you will release two shutters at the same time,
(One lens shutter and one body shutter), so you must don't release the body shutter button too fast.
Assume you can release shutter action faster than 1/30 seconds.
and you body select the shutter speed lower than 1/30 seconds.
you will get under explorer picture.
You fire the body shutter button and hold for a while.
The lens shutter B stop stay open and the body shutter will finish first, you will get the correct explorer photo.
You can also used the 200 body as a 503 body. set the shutter ring to C mode. even no battery in body. you can use the lens shutter to take photo. 203FE body can use two mode;
C mode - use lens shutter, you will benefit to use 1/500 second flash syn. or no spare battery. you still can use the 203 internal meter system, set to M mode (manual mode), stop down the lens aperature to your desired f stop. Press half-way the body shutter button. you will see the shutter speed display, Then manually set the lens shutter to closest shutter speed.
F mode - you must set the CF/CFi/CFE lens to F stop (lens shutter lock), use the stop down method or I suggested method. you also get correct explosure.
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Hello JYang Brother.
WA!!! you have many lens. I only have 4 lens at this moment.
Already spend out my 10 years saving. Hasselblad products very expensive.
It seem that you forget to buy the 903/905SWC.
The 903/905 easy to blow out the 40 and 50 mm lens.
Now I have 30MM CFI, 110FE, CF variogon 140-280MM, 350SA + 1.4APO and 905SWC and 203FE + winder F.
Before I bought 905SWC, I always use my 50mm CFI to landscape photo.
I satisfy the result. After I bought the 905SWC, I sold out the CFI 50MM. I use my hasselblad projector to Project 40' x 40' image, wa!!! never forget the all the picture quality taken by 905SWC. Richest color, dark blue sky, Stronge 3D feel. Extremely high resolution from corner to corner.
I can't go back to use 40mm or 50MM lens to take landscape photos.
But the draw back of the 905 are
1. what you see is not what you get.
2. you need to guess the distance between subject and the lens.
3. small aperature of the lens, only F4.5
4. difficult to used PL (I think no need, the sky is dark blue even without using pl, 50mm need to Add PL to make the sky become dark blue), I know hasselblad has a focusing screen adaptor 41050 + RFMX view finder to get accuracy focusing and can use PL. But you need to remove it change to A12 mag when you need to take photo. and change back to screen adaptor to focusing, very very inconvenience.
5. you need to a hand held meter for it.
But, you won't regret to have 903/905SWC.
The next lens I like is 350SA, it is too heavy for hand held, (impossible), so always use with monopod. Added 1.4x apo. I will get a 490mm F8 lens, quality still excenllent, only a little quality lost at the corner of the photo.
but very very difficult take a non vibrate photo after added 1.4x apo
only 2 frame of photos success of one roll of film. still need to pratice more.
Do you have the 6093T proshae, it is the best lens shade than the plastic len hood, but the outlook very stranger.
I must buy the chinese hand writing pad first.
Because we are chinese, why I write english in here?
In here must writing chinese.
see you later.
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eWong兄,
小弟本以135為主, 但去年欣賞完一位朋友紐西蘭南島,桂林及新疆的作品, 才下定決心進入Hassy世界; 不過, 平時小弟仍以135為主, 取其操作方便;
小弟對903SWC的印象很深刻,緣於一張新疆回家姑娘奔馬的作品; 那位朋友講訴本來是在拍新疆的風景, 沒想樹林裡傳來一陣蹄聲, 他直接拿取903SWC調好超焦距, 就卡喳下去; 整張奔馬及揚起塵土的構圖很有張力, 畫面灑滿黃金色陽光; 因此小弟一直對903SWC 的印象很深刻;
不過, 他也跟您一樣, 有提到903對焦的問題, 只能用景深來決定; 我是思考了很久, 因為小弟之前曾有G16, 每次要裝卸那片漸層濾鏡都是戰戰兢兢的, G21沒有那片漸層濾鏡就還好, 後來就將G16讓賢給一位PRO; 因以風景攝影為主, 小弟決定120仍以SLR為主, 維持操作的一慣性外, 並可方便PL使用, 因此暫時不碰905SWC; 因此, 小弟選了MTF略遜一籌的CFE 40, CFE 40的焦段與重量約略與903SWC set相當, 幾次拍攝下來效果也相當不錯, 我已經很滿意了, ^^;
3中月北橫鴛鴦湖,用CFE 40拍了兩捲120, 藍天白雲加上青山藍水, 不錯, 是藍水,湖水映著天色,好藍,好藍; (沒用PL) 同時用Y/C 28~85拍攝的鴛鴦湖也相當銳利, 但氣氛就是不一樣;
CFE 350SA(+1.4APO)是準備拍荷花用的, 因荷花時間未到, 故仍未開張; 小弟用的是Lee的標準及廣角蛇腹型遮光罩, 取其可以方便使用Lee's漸層濾鏡;
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為什麼我看ewong8所發表的是英文版
(看不懂)只怪自己以前不好好讀書
有哪位大大可以教我轉成中文; 謝謝
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有關eWong兄203FE使用C/CF/CFi鏡的說明, 小弟試為翻譯如下, 如有揣錯之處,尚請eWong兄鑒諒,
1.CF lens, 使用stop-down方式(利用鏡頭景深預觀鈕), 修正203FE機身內部測光系統的測光值, 步驟如下:
1) 鎖定CF鏡頭的快門打到F檔(Focal Plane Shutter)
2) 壓下鏡頭的景深預觀鈕(stop-down方式), 然後完成對焦按下快門,就可以203FE機身內部的測光系統進行測光, 得到正確曝光的作品;
However, 如果需用的光圈較小(如F8,F11), 那就很難在預觀景深時完成對焦;大部分User會先以全開光圈完成對焦, 再以step-down方式(壓下景深預觀鈕),再按下快門取得作品;
2. eWong兄常需F8光圈取得較佳畫質, 因此特別以CFI 50/F4鏡頭為例, 介紹他經常使用的另種方法, 步驟如下:
1) 解開景深預觀鈕,轉動鏡頭光圈環到F8,觀景窗看到的仍是光圈全開時樣子,再用機身左側的曝光補償按鈕加兩格EV來測光, 如此亦可得正確曝光;因全開光圈的F4到F8, 曝光指數剛好差2兩格EV; 如光圈是F11, 同理則加3格EV即可; 這樣的好處就是User可不用Stop down方式來拍照, 可在全開光圈下完成對焦; 使用Stop down方式, 在F8以下真的很難完成對焦;
2) CF鏡與F鏡一樣, 但是CF鏡需要將鎖定CF鏡頭的快門(打到F檔)
3) C鏡也可以使用203FE, 但是必須將鏡間快門設為B快門(^^, 原來如此);但需注意不要太快按下機身快門鈕, 最少要等1秒鐘後才能按下機身快門(?) |
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請問一下.....
手邊有一顆C80的鏡頭，鏡頭內有一些灰塵(不算少)，從底片看來
是似是不影響成像....可是心裡就是 "毛毛的" ...
請問一下，哈蘇的鏡頭送去清洗大概要多少錢呢？...
又....這樣清洗的動做會不會有後遺症？
再問...
C80白鏡的遮光罩去那裡找得到？ |
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哈魯與陸來裡頭不是有分解動作??依樣化葫蘆就好了^_^.. |
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有誰知道現在905swc公司貨與水貨是多少?謝謝 |
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請問503cw的腰平觀景器的放大鏡有給老花眼用的嗎
因為我手上的腰平放大鏡看起來都糊糊的無法對焦
但是將腰平取下後,用LUPE看又可以對的很清楚
能換放大鏡嗎...? |
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各位大大，終於買了手寫板，可以跟各位以中文交談。
JYang 兄，多謝你以中文解說，完全正確，只是我打了。是使用Ｃ鏡於201f/203fe/205fcc/tcc 機身。真正的方法是，把Ｃ鏡轉到Ｂ快門，按下機身快門請等一等而不要太快放開你的手指，代機身的快門完成後才放開按快門的手指，當接快門的手指未放開時，鏡身的Ｂ快門仍然是全開的。
只要你做一個實驗便知道個中完理，假設你要使用機身的1秒快門,把鏡身快門設於Ｂ門，按大快門而立刻鬆門快門的手指，這時鏡身怏門即時關Ｘ了，而機身的一秒快還沒有行完。在這情況下便會暴光不兄。
請原諒太多白字，很久沒有使用中文。
brady_lo 兄：請不要洗鏡，灰塵不會影響成像，反以洗得不好就會影響成像，哈蘇的鏡頭是很容易入塵，不要波費金錢。
905swc公司貨在香港萬成攝影器材店是港元二萬儿千伍佰完左古，
水貨在天祥攝影器材店二萬七仟元左右。
Ricky joe 兄:503cw的腰平觀景器是有放大鏡有給老花眼用，要在眼鏡店特別做的，是一個鬼佬告訢我的。
這遍回信用了一小時有多。我的中文跟英文一樣的差。希望下次可以寫得快一點就完美。
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