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CM有點食老本....改善咁少野,個價錢就貴一倍...有無搞錯呀!
轉得款出新機,至起碼都要重新設計支鏡,wide一點去到35mm啦!
各大高級傻瓜的新機種,都是比上代wide和便宜!size再細一點,這才是進步!
而EO2毛病早就應該在Minilux時就要改善啦!拖欠多年都唔去改善...
我都很愛玩傻瓜,近一年見minilux減價清貨,同埋見佢個機種的規格和年分都出左咁多年,都估到快要轉款,所以死忍手唔買minilux....期間都等到有部新機,但死笑我!竟然是貴價蛇紋版minilux。
現在終於等到佢出新機,但個價錢和spec係咁,真的失望!
看來都要再想想TC-1了....聽聞停產,而且價錢已再一步下調了。 |
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Is TC-1 really 停產?
How much is now in Hong Kong? |
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i got one last month @ 5900HKD |
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講左咁耐, 其實有冇人知呢部 Leica CM 的真實市場售價?
真係貴 Minilux 一倍? 成七千蚊? |
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PANASONIC現在都專注DC市場，再無心幫L牌發展FILM機(因市場很小)，把整條生產線給了L牌，讓他們自己設計外型、生產等。 |
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YY:
1000 euro MPRS |
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Vir, 呢個係廠方的selling price, 未計discount.
實際一定不用這麼貴 |
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以呢個價, 打返個七折.. 都要成 6 千幾蚊. |
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More Leica = more $$$ |
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7多k這個價錢見仁見智,叫貴又得,話佢值又得。因為在DC不斷發展下,現時還捨得拿幾千銀買一部高級傻瓜的,錢根本就不是要考慮的最大問題。
但40mm這個焦段就真有點落伍啦!雖然,小弟有部傻瓜都是40mm,但這是幾十年前舊規格的陳年Rollei 35SE......
同埋,用得這類高級P&S都係當隨身利器來玩SNAP,wide一點總是好用一點。況且,RF的強項就是在Wide.....
日本仔舊一代定焦傻瓜都35mm啦!新一代機型已經21/24/28mm啦!
連T3都加到去35mm......
minilux新機型仲要玩40mm和吊高來賣....天呀!激死人!可能之前對它改款的期望太高啦!因為我見佢早陣子的新傻瓜都由C2的35-70mm加到去C3 28-80mm。仲以為新minilux可以有35mm或28mm.... |
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說得對，唔抵買。
Leica 的東西邊樣抵買呢？
幾時出呀？打算買第一水，回來看看 viewer是否真的改善了、D 相有冇一樣的水準，輕盈得有冇手感？期待呀！~~~^-^ |
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新機300gm，輕左30gm。D相都唔會差的，鏡頭和MINILUX一樣規格，可能顏色和反差會不同，因改了新的COATING。 |
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I have no faith in German electronics, not about its technology (I agree they are top-notch) but its reliability, because BMW and Benz have more electrical problems than Japanese cars, and also TV. The Japanese are much better in these areas. I personally do not like "Made in Germany", seems Leica is very proud of it but in fact it means nothing except Leica can ask for an unreasonably high price.
Also, 40mm is not enough for landscape/scenery photography. I prefer 24/28mm. What"s the reason for Leica in 40mm??? Other than that, it"s a very attractive baby. |
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As an user, I want 21mm, 28mm and 35 mm versions of minilux at a price less than 500 euros! No need to save money to buy those $xx,xxx up stuffs such as M21, M28, M35 and MP lor.
What"s the reason for 40mm?
Hm.....
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論AF 電子科技, 日本絕對領先.
論鏡頭光學質素, 無可否認德國比日本好.
但是以這價錢的話, 論拍攝後出照片質素, 相比之下, 我寧可玩120 系統 |
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40mm is very close to standard lens.
Too wide angle create problem of dark corner at wide open. Usually need to large real element and special design to overcome this natural behaviour. And wide angle need extra precision on focussing mechanism than tele lens.
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In addition to 超人"s technical point, the choice of focal length a rather personal stuffs as well as a function of the environment involved. Also, depends on you subject of photography (scenic, environmental portrait and so on). Most people use 21mm for scenery in Sahara desert and yet find 21mm not wide enough in certain locations in the Rockies. Instead, they use tele (200mm up) for cropping off distracting things while taking scenic photos in Rockies. What is the best focal length for scenery photo? I don"t know. Then, some people opt for zoom lense. But what about the quality? Even TVS3 is famous for its "黑角". http://www.photosharp.com.tw/forum2003/topic/topic.asp?forum_id=23&Code=20030802000047&fPage=1&Page=1Whenever you opt for prime lense, there is some tradeoff. No matter it is 21mm, 28mm or 35mm. Otherwise, why bother buying SLR and lot of lenses. I sometime find 40mm not wide enough whereas too wide in other occasions (e.g. taking scenic of Taipei city at "Mao Xiong"). What can I do with the Minilux? What about SLR? It is versatile whenever you are ready to carry heavy luggage or use compromised super zoom lense. The world is not perfect. Nor any camera. One have to make tough choice. Depending on your usage and subjects. If one opts for prime lense and its qualities. One needs to understand the inherant limitations of the equipment so that he will not abuse it and can fully deploy it. http://acielmd.cool.ne.jp/Minilux_club/gallery/Daniel.html |
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Do any one of you know how they rectify the problem of EO2 in the new CM camera? |
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希望解決了E02問題... |
