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slin


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2003/08/27 10:38
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想睇睇大家既意見,覺得買film scanner好?定係300d好?(或其他dslr?)

Yuen_Vincent


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1) 2003/08/27 10:53 
300D~~~
Scanning ho time-consuming ga~

godmars


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2) 2003/08/27 10:54 
喱個問題我都曾經考慮過, 但當試過Scan菲林既效果同埋計過條數之後, 得出結論係如果影既相大多數都會數碼化的話, 就唔好考慮買Film Scanner, 因為個Running cost到頭來都係差無幾, 但個效果同方便性就冇得同DSLR比, 而且個用Film數碼化個後製仲鬼咁麻煩... 如果影得唔多, 都唔好買Film Scanner, 有需要先至攞去俾人Scan或者自己用Flatbed直接Scan已經晒o左出蒞既相。

我一個月打得個幾筒菲林, 所以而家係後者個做法。但300D出時可能會買都唔奇, 睇睇部機過唔過到自己果關先; 不過就算過到自己都仲要過埋老婆果關至得... -_-;;;

bony cat


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3) 2003/08/27 10:54 
我會選300D.
Film scanner太麻煩啦!

Yuen_Vincent


新進會員

4) 2003/08/27 11:00 
In fact, DC also not bad ga~~
Why ppl need to distinguish between DC and D-SLR
Both of them can create beautiful~~

Because D-SLR is more expensive, give ppl a superior image?

香港至*NET*超人


新進會員

5) 2003/08/27 11:49 
仲緬懷135既質素? 要質素, 120啦...

antking00


新進會員

6) 2003/08/27 11:58 
the choice really depends on ur personal preference.

i myself like viewing the slides using light boxes, and i also bought a filmscanner to digitize them and to put them on the web for sharing.  though it is time consuming, i find it is worth it.

the more trivial benefit of dslr is that they can preview the pic onsite and to retake if necessary.  cost savings from dslr only comes when the photographer takes lots and lots of pictures using it (ofcourse not keep taking rubbish pics).

news00


新進會員

7) 2003/08/27 12:57 
I want use another approach to discuss this topic.
To start with, please make sure what kind of medium you would like to vuse for viewing your images.  If you always use your computer screen, TV, LCD projector, etc. to view your photo images in the form of digital files, then buy dslr.
If you usually view your images in the form of paper prints, you also have to buy dslr as you can have more control on the images.
However, if you take positive films and want to view your images by traditional projector, then you need a film scanner because with the limitation of color range, the quality of images from the electronic viewing media (computer screen, TV, LCD projector) is still a little bit behind than film+projector.  You need a film scanner only as a kind of additional storage tool.
Just like superman say "純以畫質而言, 菲林依然拋雜DSLR很多".

大話王


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8) 2003/08/27 13:27 
300D好似明天到香港wow,下個月有得賣

D1X&F90X


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9) 2003/08/27 13:58 
>>>(computer screen, TV, LCD projector) is still a little bit behind than film+projector<<<<

computer screen, TV, LCD projector is around 1280X1024,

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakdcs14n/page23.asp

14N IS 4500 x 3000 .

Chan Ting


新進會員

10) 2003/08/27 14:42 
Unless you want to spend hours and hours to play with the computer software of scanning, otherwise just buy a DSLR and use the time to go taking picture la.

See the comparison of D60 and Medium Format below:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/d60/d60.shtml

The conclusion is:
"35mm Photographers: If you"ve been waiting to make the move to digital but haven"t felt that the cost / quality / image size equation worked for you yet — well, I think the time has come — especially if you already own some Canon EOS lenses. On A3 (11X17") and smaller prints the D60 is a champ and there"s little advantage to film anymore." (quote from Michael Reichmann)

香港至*NET*超人


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11) 2003/08/27 16:56 
Film scanner is **NEVER** be a good backup storage device of important film!!!!
This is for sure, many of the buyer want to keep digital file of films and become an important and permanent backup. But most of them give up scanning films after 3 months of purchase.

RE:Chan Ting
The luminous-landscape has some interesting find on DSLR better than 120 system. And in fact one sold out the Pentax 67 and get the 1Ds system. But one thing the web doesn"t mention is about hi-light and shadow depth of clarity. Yes, DSLR owning clean and trouble free images, but the color depth when shooting just a sunset can tell what the film really doing. To shoot things without strong lighting effect, DSLR is OK. And DSLR owning very good hi-ISO noise control, so as faster longer time expose.

Chan Ting


新進會員

12) 2003/08/27 17:35 
The trading in of Pentax 67 for a 1Ds is quite a radical move. And I think most of the professionals (I guess users of Pentax 67 are usually professionals, or at least some really enthusiastic amateurs) will not do that (at least for the time being).

As to the comparison of and discussion of Film (or scanned film) VS. DSLR, there are already a lot of discussion in the forum and I think people will choose among themselves acccording to their needs and taste.  But I think, to general amateurs who are not too picky as to image quality, nowadays DSLR (e.g. D100, D60) can satisfy them already since many of them prefer to watch and share photos thro" monitor and on the web (at least I am impressed by many "sunset" photos on this website taken by DSLR).

Final words, DSLR photos (viewed thro" monitor) cannot beat the the 3-D feeling of looking at a slide thro" lightbox and loupe.


fongtl


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13) 2003/08/27 19:46 
小弟就覺得...
如果你已經有部唔差的SLR...
就買FILM SCANNER啦...
用佢SCAN相係好徙時間...
但係值O既~

300D始終係要乘1.6...
就算你有17mm的鏡頭...也只係28mm...

當你影過一o的見得下人o既slide...
你就會唔鍾意DSLR...
對我黎講...DSLR只有"方便"這個優點罷了...

本來有諗過買10D...
但係最後都係買左EOS3同埋elite5400...

slin


新進會員

14) 2003/08/28 00:26 
我都知300d唔係一個好好既選擇,但budget有限...
想買dslr既原因都係為方便,講質數,個人要求唔係太高,even連睇手扎鏡頭比較既文章,都唔覺有咩分別(除非係跟機樳裝既雞鏡)。
論質數,我都同意不如上120。

其實都想買10d,因為我有canon 系統,所以只考慮canon。但300d同佢差3-4千蚊又多支鏡,而功能又唔係差太遠....但10d out-fo問題好似幾嚴重,都幾擔心300d會係咁,所以都會睇定少少,下個月睇下有咩用家報告先。

JamesPong


新進會員

15) 2003/08/28 00:31 
1.6×...如果o的鏡唔夠wide可能要買多支鏡(又係錢),但如fongtl咁講,17mm即係28mm,玩唔到superwide,買多支鏡又唔到頭唔到肺,幾難頂...
所以都係睇自己取向,我自己就鍾意玩wide影風景,一定唔會買10D或300D,儲多o的錢一次過買1D或可能出的3D好過。

jsklee


新進會員

16) 2003/08/28 01:57 
For quality, film + scanner

For convenience, DC or DSLR

Vir


新進會員

17) 2003/08/28 14:11 
use 135 take superwide = eat banana
unless u like fisheye

大話王


新進會員

18) 2003/08/28 17:13 
300d收到風有淨Body賣
$7000,可能仲會平!(吾知係咩價)

Chan Ting


新進會員

19) 2003/08/28 18:37 
HK$7,000 !!!

Smart move of Canon, can tempt people who use DC before to join in the SLR (or DSLR) world, then they will enter a world of never-ending pursuit of lens, lens and lens...(zoom lens)...(prime lens)....(L lens)...........giving their $$$$$$ to Canon.

JamesPong


新進會員

20) 2003/08/28 23:18 
Vir:
"use 135 take superwide = eat banana
unless u like fisheye"

唔明你意思...
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