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When I went to Europe last year I brought
Dynax 7, 800si and Dimage 7i with
20, 24-105, 28-70/2.8, 80-200/2.8, 1.4TX, tripod
A digital camera gives you much more freedom.
Because I shoot both positive and negative films, I need at least two bodies. |
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Last time when I went to Malysia, I took 24-85 and 80-200. Finally, I only used the 80-200 twice in the Hotel.
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By the way, 19-35 is better for Europe as last time when I was in Europe, I used 24-50 but always found insufficiently wide to capture the beautiful old building. |
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Bring your Dynax 7 with 24-105mm lens and a snap-shot camera or a digital camera. Last year, I brought my Dynax 800si with Tamron 24-135mm SP and Ricoh GR1s to Europe last summer, I found that's very enough for me already. 24mm is enough for landscape and 105mm is enough for snap shot. Heavy load will bring your 'pain' during trip (that means you cannot enjoy the trip much, unless your aim is to take pictures only). Furthermore, bring a solid, small and light tripod along, that's very essential. A film x-ray protection bag is useful if you are going to bring high speed films, enough battery and films are very important too.
Enjoy your trip! |
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I would just bring 19-35 and 50 for my own habits and the situation you may face in Europe. I seldom use tele.
if you also have habbit or using tele.
19-35, 50 and 100-300 are very good combination.
for quality and larget apeture you get the 50. you also have super wide that you may use it most of the time in europe and 100-300 as tele.
Add also a p&s camera for snapshot and to ask other to take photos of yourself. |
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去歐州旅行,人生一大快事.攝影器材我提議帶24-105和100-300.
這樣不會錯過任美景.最好帶1枝脚作為影夜景用,免到時後悔,因我有1師兄有此絰驗
況旅途愉快,收獲豐富. |
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試過帶slr去長途旅行, 跟團兼且同家人, 專心影相既時間根本吾多, 地點亦未必理想... 唉,一些導遊鍾意帶你去購物...  帶一整套slr重裝備？我勸你三思而後行. 成日掛住取景換鏡,有時會大煞風景... 何不輕輕鬆鬆？ 再去旅行的話,我不會帶slr, 只會取一部rf,2-3鏡,小閃燈,一般背囊己經綽綽有餘, 或是一部高階傻瓜機,起碼可以控制光圈. 很多底片. 祝你旅途愉快！  |
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Thank you so much all of you, but opinion here also varies a lot. May I ask, is it true that without a sufficiently wide angle lens (24mm or less) one would very likely miss many architecture shots? |
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Tamron 19-35/3.5-4.5
good deal |
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“Is it true that without a sufficiently wide angle lens (24mm or less) one would very likely miss many architecture shots?”
The ans is yes. When I was in Japan and Bangkok, I need a reasonable wide angles (17-35) lens to capture the whole view of a temple. Image all the castles and churches in Europe. I think wide is a must.
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i suggest you bring all you have!
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唔好買19-35之類, 要買就買tokina atx17/3.5, 超廣角zoom好極有限, 影起耀光又變形大.
去旅行最緊要玩得開心, 帶得太多器材反而變成心理及生理壓力, 你影得再好都唔會靚過明
信片, 好多相都係酊此一遊, 藝術價值不會太高, 反而是人生的一個重要記錄, 記錄的是個
人享受那次旅行, 而非做了器材奴僕. 依我所見, 如果是跟團去, 因為冇時間setup及換鏡等,
一機三鏡已經係頂晒籠, 自由行就帶咩都得, 問題係衫褲鞋襪通通係身到, 揹得愈多就愈快
玩殘而無晒mood去影相, 自己好好衡量一下吧.
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I've visited Europe with a "duckling tour" before. Honestly speaking, you don't have much time to take photos especially the guide has to take care a lot of people with different tastes. (Most of them prefer shopping to taking photos).
Yes, you may visit the Cathedrals and museums in Rome,Italy and Paris, France. But according to my past experience, you won't have much time to stay a long wide,since there are so many tourists that you are pushed to move.
So I would like to suggest you to bring an AF20mm f2.8 anf the AF24-85(105)mm of Minolta are enough. But remember to bring one to two rolls ISO 1000/1600 films with you for some of the museums forbid people to use flash (you are allowed to use camera). Be aware of your pockets especially in the crowded areas.
Hope you enjoy you trip! |
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agree to buy tokina atx17/3.5, instead of wide zoom.
>問題係衫褲鞋襪通通係身到, 揹得愈多就愈快
玩殘而無晒mood去影相, 自己好好衡量一下吧
from my past experience, I place most stuffs in hotel/motel lobby. just go out with a backpack with water, reasonable number of films, camera, lenses, windstopper........
I revise my suggestion as 17mm, 50mm, tripod, a very very small manual flash.
I go Europe twice with the following things.
2 ricoh 35R (for 3D slides)
Canon T90,
canon New-F1 (as backup, place in hotel luggage most of the time)
Manfotto manual flash (cost less than %150, GN20)
FD20-35mm (above 90% useage)
FD50 (less than 5%usage alone another 5% as tele/macro with 2X)
FD2XB
FD135f2 (only a few shots)
Tripods.
Rollei Pergo 70 for asking people to help me to take photos.
I use more tahn 100 roll of slides for 19days. (huge usages because 3D slides consumpt double for every shoots.
I only use camera bag when i am on flight. I use ordinary backpack to save weights when going out daily. The camera back will be places in hotel/motel lobby with other luggages.
I only take out a littel big more than necessary film out while other are placed with other luggages when i am out.
we can only share experience but you have to choose by yourself as different photographer get different habbits.
happy shooting.
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Thank you all of you for your comments. In fact we're not following a package tour. we just go there on our own. I decided to forget the super wide side, because I already have a 24-105, and I think spending an extra thousand dollars or two for just 5mm wider focal length isn't that cost-effective. Now I face another question. Shall I not be so lazy that I even put my 100-300/4.5-5.6 home? Is it useful in Europe?
I plan to bring the following films for my 24 day Europe trip:
E100VS x 24
RDP x 20
RHP x 20
Tri-X x 18
This would make about 3.5 rolls per day only, but I'll also have a Canon A70 plus 512MB of compact flash cards with me. From your experience, would it be enough? My friend has a budget of 5 rolls per day!
One last question. Is tripod generally allowed in Europe? If not, any idea of how I can manage to take long exposures? Thanks all again for your patience. |
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24mm and 17mm are HUGE difference!
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in term of angle of view, 1 mm is already in great difference in lenses under 24mm. |
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recommend prime lens and tripod! |
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咁岩我又係用M記DYNAX7加埋枝24-105同100-300喎。
正如之前咁多位講，我都係話去旅行映相最緊要簡便囉，去旅行但求享受下，如果掛到成頸都係野仲加埋個相機袋論論盡盡咁就盞冇癮，我自己就有咁既經驗。每次旅行見到其他絕大部分遊客都係拎住DC或者傻瓜機，有d仲用即棄果d相機菲林添，不知玩得幾瀟灑，相反自己就一舊二舊重到死又辛苦，果陣真係覺得自己好鬼笨實好無謂囉。仲有呀，好多時諗set好副架生換下鏡但係攪得兩攪又俾老婆鬧，話人地映相你映相你映得零舍麻煩過人映得又唔係特別靚喎，又話淨係掛住映景又唔映人。咁諗諗下其實佢又講得幾岩既。
計我話去旅行不如帶部攝錄機去好過啦，一部DV加部DC就最perfect。
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Superman, I understand the 17mm prime is great, but when I don't even have the budget for the 19-35 at the moment, I won't be able to afford the 17mm, which is even more expensive.
Maybe 5mm is really a big difference, but would this extra 5mm be indispensible in Europe? If so, then I have to think of methods to squeeze more money for it. Time is short. I'm going 5 days later! |
