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pentax01


新進會員

2002/03/29 13:13
器材: Pentax 其他
請問pentax是原廠的閃燈好,還是用metz的好呢!相機店的老闆說
還是用原廠的較好,因為pentax對閃燈很挑,會有這種事嗎!可是
metz不是閃燈的專家嗎!如我想用在我的z-1上metz的閃燈那種較適
合呢!謝謝!

karrywai


新進會員

1) 2002/03/31 00:19 
如果你祇用Pentax一種系統.請買Pentax.如果你是聯合國會員;一定用Metz-->其實接腳一點也不便宜!

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我恨"講"府無能.政策不知所謂!--->議而不決,決而不行.
不負責任的政府去行責任部長制!!!!唉!!!
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kliss


新進會員

2) 2002/04/01 02:18 
那麼現在我的情況是:
所有器材都是pentax, 但女朋友用EOS, 我將來(真的不知何時)可能會買Canon 的macro, 那麼我應該買 Pentax AF550FTZ OR Metz 40MZ3i, 價錢的確是Metz 高些


.: Kliss :.
我可不是那位Chris前輩啊!
只是個拿著Z1p 的無名小卒

karrywai


新進會員

3) 2002/04/01 02:29 
Why not pentax macro--FA100mm/F3.5????

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我窮但窮得有骨氣!
我恨"講"府無能.政策不知所謂!--->議而不決,決而不行.
不負責任的政府去行責任部長制!!!!唉!!!
又高官自肥!!!
"董怕怕";我們憤怒了!請你下台!"

kliss


新進會員

4) 2002/04/02 00:02 
Then why not pentax macro--FA100mm/F2.8? hehe
If I continue to use Pentax product, then should I buy Metz and Pentax flash?


.: Kliss :.
我可不是那位Chris前輩啊!
只是個拿著Z1p 的無名小卒

isaac_chen


新進會員

5) 2002/04/02 00:43 
我想請教
HONEYWELL PENTAX & ASAHI PENTAX
有什麼關係
在美國市場看到的SPOTMATIC
幾乎都是HONEYWELL
是什麼道理
3Q

Takumar


新進會員

6) 2002/04/02 01:26 
Pls take a look at the new 360 flash before you choice Metz...
It's hard to find in Taiwan, but it worths the price..
about 6500 ~ 7000

kuniaki


新進會員

7) 2002/04/02 01:48 
quote:

Pls take a look at the new 360 flash before you choice Metz...
It's hard to find in Taiwan, but it worths the price..
about 6500 ~ 7000




Don't forget you can get a Metz 54MZ-3 ( GN 54 ) for just adding NT$2500.

How much is the GN value of the new 360 flash ?
Does it have sub-flash for fill-in flash photography ?
Of course you can question me that I still need to spend more on buying a Pentax Adapter for TTL functioning with Pentax system. However, I don't care too much if the flash can perform TTL function with the camera or not. A mode is just enough. It is very precise and good.

By the way, I think Pentax's Flash function, compared with C,N, and M, is just very poor. Spending that much money on buying a poor functioned genuine flash is just not pursuasive enough for me.

A GN 36 equivalent flash of Metz cost no more than 6000.

Takumar


新進會員

8) 2002/04/02 02:45 
[/quote]
However, I don't care too much if the flash can perform TTL function with the camera or not. A mode is just enough. It is very precise and good.
[/quote]

i'm using 360 amd I'm happy with it.
Of course, Metz is more professional for making BIG flash gun, but I'm glad that Pentax finally release a capable and cost-effective medium size/power 360.
see how people say about 360:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg44311.html

BTW, you can find tons of A mode flash guns from ebay range from us 10~100

l_thomas


新進會員

9) 2002/04/02 12:33 
HONEYWELL PENTAX 沒聽過呢!可能是我還沒看過舊一點的機身吧!
而asahi是pentax的母公司!旭光學工業株式會社。Asahi Optical...
所有pentax的相機及配件都打上Asahi Optical的字樣!很久以前的pentax相機都是打上asahi opt的標誌,但現在則成立pentax為旗下專門生產相機的品牌,而Asahi OPtical的最大部分收益均來自pentax.......
除了像其他光學公司一樣,Asahi OPTICAL除了生產相機外,公司還有醫學儀器、閉路電視、眼鏡、望遠鏡及土地測量用儀器。

我係LTH, To me,  Photography is..........
The Art of Light, Shadow and Colors;
The Technology of Optics, Mechanics, Electronics, Chemistry and Engineering.

karrywai


新進會員

10) 2002/04/02 22:18 
如果沒記錯;Sear & Honeywell(Pentax)在美國都出過M42 mount機身和鏡頭.應該OEM by Pentax.或合作性質供美國本土銷售.

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我窮但窮得有骨氣!
我恨"講"府無能.政策不知所謂!--->議而不決,決而不行.
不負責任的政府去行責任部長制!!!!唉!!!
又高官自肥!!!
"董怕怕";我們憤怒了!請你下台!"

314037


新進會員

11) 2002/04/02 22:34 
The trademark "Pentax" was originally owned by Honeywell, which is a traditional American manufacturer who happens to produce their own cameras.  Before the 70s, Asahi Optics sold their cameras in US under their name "Asahi".  However, it did not sell well in the US market because Japanese products was not as highly regarded as they are now.  Therefore, when Honeywell decided to withdraw from the camera business, they sold the tradmark "Pentax" and their whole camera division to Asahi.  Asahi then begun to sell their cameras in US under the name "Pentax".


314037


新進會員

12) 2002/04/02 22:40 
quote:

By the way, I think Pentax's Flash function, compared with C,N, and M, is just very poor. Spending that much money on buying a poor functioned genuine flash is just not pursuasive enough for me.

A GN 36 equivalent flash of Metz cost no more than 6000.



I have the AF-360FGZ flash and I am quite happy with its performance.  It has a GN of 36 and various functions like P-TTL, high-speed and wireless sync, exposure compensation, fill flash, rear-curtain sync...

I have no experience with the flash produced by C, N or M.  Can you tell me how poor is the flash system of Pentax when comparing with other manufacturers?



20167yiu


新進會員

13) 2002/04/03 07:15 
RE: Kuniaki

In fact, Pentax will not design their flash gun alone. Pentax design their flash gun carefully which are tailor for their cameras. Pentax cameras + Pentax flash guns + Pentax accessories work as a SYSTEM. According to experience and overseas equipment test report. Pentax system works very well (better than Nikon and Minolta). If you don't understand Pentax cameras, you will not understand Pentax flashguns.

314037


新進會員

14) 2002/04/03 15:18 
quote:

The trademark "Pentax" was originally owned by Honeywell, which is a traditional American manufacturer who happens to produce their own cameras.  Before the 70s, Asahi Optics sold their cameras in US under their name "Asahi".  However, it did not sell well in the US market because Japanese products was not as highly regarded as they are now.  Therefore, when Honeywell decided to withdraw from the camera business, they sold the tradmark "Pentax" and their whole camera division to Asahi.  Asahi then begun to sell their cameras in US under the name "Pentax".



關於Pentax歷史的修正:轉載自Asahi Optical Historical Club

http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/slre.htm

Early Asahiflex cameras were only sold in Japan. When they started selling in USA, the main American importer was Sears, Roebuck & Co., which sold Asahiflex cameras and lenses under their brand name Tower. The Asahiflex model IIB was sold with two different Tower designations, according to the standard lens it was equipped with.

The first Asahi pentaprism SLR was called the Pentax, hence the Asahi Pentax lettering appeared for the first time on front pentaprism housing. The then new Pentacon M42x1 screw mount replaced the narrower M37x1 of the Asahiflex. Since the Pentax name was so nice and the camera so successful, the Pentax name was retained on all next models (which gained a model designation of their own) now the original model is also known as the AP.

Sears, Roebuck & Co. continued selling Asahi cameras for a while, again under their brand name Tower. Then starting from 1959, the Heiland division of Minneapolis Honeywell became the exclusive distributor of Pentax products for USA. Honeywell also sold Asahi Pentax cameras with model designations different from those sold worldwide.

Asahi introduced the famous Pentax K-bayonet in 1975. The Asahi lettering on pentaprism faded away slowly from K-series (where it was written smaller than in screw mount cameras) to M-series (where Asahi was even smaller and no longer black laquered). With the introduction of the ME Super in January 1980, all cameras were just called Pentax.
Soon after the introduction of the K-series, Honeywell went out the photographic business. The photographic division of Honeywell (or part of it) was bought by Asahi Opt. Co., thus becoming Pentax Corporation. Camera designations for US market often continued being different from international market for commercial reasons.



isaac_chen


新進會員

15) 2002/04/06 01:15 
Thanks,
many H.Pentax (M42) camera can be found on ebay USA.

kliss


新進會員

16) 2002/04/10 02:38 
回應最初的問題:

論輕便的話, 非Pentax 不可, 因為它的特別one lock hotshoe設計, 加上燈身輕便和細得多。


.: Kliss :.
我可不是那位Chris前輩啊!
只是個拿著Z1p 的無名小卒


Edited by - kliss on 2002/04/10  20:43:17

l_thomas


新進會員

17) 2002/04/11 00:36 
What is one lock hot shoe??thx

我係LTH, To me,  Photography is..........
The Art of Light, Shadow and Colors;
The Technology of Optics, Mechanics, Electronics, Chemistry and Engineering.

大莊

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藝廊顧問

18) 2002/05/06 15:10 
quote:

請問pentax是原廠的閃燈好,還是用metz的好呢!相機店的老闆說
還是用原廠的較好,因為pentax對閃燈很挑,會有這種事嗎!可是
metz不是閃燈的專家嗎!如我想用在我的z-1上metz的閃燈那種較適
合呢!謝謝!


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tryliang


新進會員

19) 2002/05/06 17:09 
我剛買了一支metz mz54 閃燈加pentax 及conon TTL 接頭,打算一燈用二機,
canon 我有540 ez ,pentax 我有ftz330 , 再買metz 的原因為
1.價錢雖比pentax ftz 500 貴一些,但可匹配其他牌子相機,還是合算得多,
2.子母燈,打跳燈時多些燈光處理的選擇
3.metz 閃燈的周邊配件充足,擴充性高,如多燈攝影.
但還是有缺點  metz mz54 不能自動Zoom ,
我的看法,若你只用pentax系統,當然用原廠閃燈,但若可能也玩其他系統的話,
metz 是不錯的選擇.       梁兄哥 上

夢幻nikon


新進會員

20) 2002/05/06 21:15 
quote:

但還是有缺點  metz mz54 不能自動Zoom ,



為何不行自動Zoom
應該可以才對
是不是接腳不合
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