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豬豬石:你個4F依家幾錢度?
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quote: 其實依家 canon 都有鏡可以做到 tilt&shift 120機都有Bellow機 做到咁45機重係唔係業餘玩家必買品呢?
if tilt/shift lens 係業餘玩家必買品... then we should have many TS lenses (even TS-zoom) in the market, & not just from Canon & Nikon, probably also from Sigma, Tamron, Vivitar, etc
however, if you're desperately need the motility of 135 SLR, and TS movements & you can settle for the limited movement of those 135 TS lenses, go get one by all means.
In case you need some variety in focal lengths, a set of 3 135-TS lenses are not cheaper than the equivalents in 4x5. well, motility is very often expensive
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of course, there are still alternatives for movements in 135 and 120 formats. but... i think the movement was limited , and varieties not much, and also very expensive. says, for Hassy arc and flex body, both of them cost u bags of money:),with same amount of money, u can also have a brand new body and a schneider or rodenstock lens. actually , 120 format with movement was very limited in the market, that is quite odd for me,Zoerk in germany do have accessories for tilt shift, macro , or even pinhole lens for brands of 135 and 120 format camera, e.g. Canon, nikon, minolta, pentax and etc etc.but also not cheap. 45 camera not only have large film size, good movement ,but also an intimate contact about photography , meaning that u can,from the basis of optical physics, to understand photography, which is interesting.of course, u can't have the portability of those smaller format ones, may be u can just take 1-2 photos in a afternoon,but it lets u slow down and have clear idea of what u take actually,
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45機一點也不慢! 其操作簡單直接, 就算不明白攝影的也很容易在三兩小時內上手, 以一般只是SHIFT的拍攝而言, 由打開相機至完成拍攝, 只是十分鐘內的事情, 如果熟手的話, 三分鐘已經OK, 再五分鐘已經完成收拾及起行. 45機也不是不可負擔的重量, TOYO生產了炭纖維機身, 淨重3.5LB, 加三枝鏡、片盒、菲林、測光表、腳架, 大概只是十多磅重, 一個40公升的背包已經可以儲好, 加上食物飲料及風衣等行山物品, 大約是廿多磅重, 對於三數小時的郊野行實在不算太為難. 當然, 45機不可以像AF135那樣一舉機就拍, 不消十秒打完一卷菲林! 但多年來發覺, 一日打幾多百張相都好, 有用及會在長遠後還有深刻印象的作品, 隨時只得三幾張, 135/120的多產是可以保証人為錯失更少, 又有一堆相可以揀幾張滿意的, 但正如benz所說, 慢下來使自己更深入拍攝的世界. 簡單的操作使作者留神於畫面的變化, 超級清晰的畫面樣你保存景物最真實的一面, 那就是大片幅攝影的好處. ----------Never ever visit these site--------- http://ctlee.0catch.com/ http://www.images.com.hk/
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超人: 若然想買4*5機,有甚麼好選擇? 又,底片應拿去那處沖印? |
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RE:小二 四五機主要分為盒機及單軌機, 我估你都知詳情. 盒機中, 以TOYOVIEW, WISTA及HOSREMAN既便宜亦多款式, TOYOVIEW有炭纖機身, 只是六千多元(新). 三個牌子我中, 我應為HORSEMAN最好. 單軌機中, 以SINAR, HORSEMAN及TOYOVIEW最常見, 功能上各有所異, 由於絕大部份都是用於影室, 我認為幾個牌子分別不算大, 主要考慮反而在附件的數量及價錢, 我覺得TOYOVIEW以價格合理見稱, 而SINAR有名氣多人用, 質素也有保証, 不過就相對地貴, HORSEMAN製作一流, 不過一樣貴. 45的底片, 不論是黑白, 彩色正負片, 都是拿去LAB沖已經可以, 約為十多元淨沖一張, 菲林由十元至十五元一張. ----------Never ever visit these site--------- http://ctlee.0catch.com/ http://www.images.com.hk/
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超人: 多謝指教。 |
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想問問超人, 以你對 45 咁有經驗, 135 既 tilt , shift 同 45 有幾大分別呢.. 當然唔計 film size .
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