Re: 105 VR: Bjorn's review

I haven't had any problems at any aperture. The 105mm VR is the best macro lens I have ever owned. The VR has allowed me to take razor sharp macro shots down to 1/10 second! I have not done any "scientific" tests, but my "real world" tests (actual photos) speak for themselves. I have an extensive collection of photos taken by this lens in a pbase gallery. Please visit the gallery at:

http://www.pbase.com/nc_bill/nikon_105mm_afs_vr_lens

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I found the same thing

And wrote about it here:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=17791462

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D2x + 105mm VR + R1C1-Macro Kit!

can you post some EXIF? At a first look I thought it was quite soft, then looking closer at the 100% crop I thought that the small halo around the white flowers might be sign of very tiny motion blur, actually, and that could explain the softness. Thanks for sharing it, best regards

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you can read them all on pbase - actually they have been:

Date/Time 13-May-2006 11:33:30
Make Nikon
Model NIKON D2X
Flash Used Yes
Focal Length 105 mm
Exposure Time 1/60 sec
Aperture f/22
ISO Equivalent 125
Exposure Bias
White Balance (-1)
Metering Mode matrix (5)
JPEG Quality (6)
Exposure Program aperture priority (3)

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before I forget:

a) I do have a 40x30cm print - it does not look blurry,

even if you may be right - 1/60s could be to short because of wind blowing...regardless the VR.

b) I've made an iso400 shot with f16 and 1/320s too - I don't see any difference or more detailed sharpness - at least not at 100% on my just 19' TFT - but I did not make a pixel by pixel competition.

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I see motion blur on second image

I agree with the other poster. I see motion blur on the second image. Look at the white flower petals. There's some ghosting on the right sides of the petals, as if they moved during the exposure.

1/60 is really too slow for handheld work with a 105 mm. That shutterspeed is going to let in enough ambient light for motion blur if your subject moves at all. I'd suggest 1/125 as a minimum if there's any breeze at all.

VR will help with camera shake, but not with subject motion.


I tend to shoot macros at 1/500 with my D1X, but then I shoot a lot of flying insects.


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Hi Duncan!

Duncan C wrote:
> I agree with the other poster. I see motion blur on the second
> image. Look at the white flower petals. There's some ghosting on
> the right sides of the petals, as if they moved during the exposure.


As I posted already - of course there is motion blur - but not of camera shake but just by wind...and that's kind of natural I would say...

and - as said before too - NOT ONE person looking at the 40x30cm poster has said "oh...look - there is a bit of motion blur visible..."

:-)


maybe that's the difference - shooting really "wild" out there...somewhere in the pampas and not shooting flowers being indoors or under glas but really out there in the pampas...

besides that - my old Manfrotto tripod would have been useless - I can't make it that small, low that I could have make this shot with a plant that's not more then 15cm tall in all...

kind regards,

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Michael S.

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I desagree with Bjorn's VR105 review

The fact is that I get top quality from f/2.8 to f/11. After f/11 the sharpness decreases.

So, this lens is able to deliver very nice bokeh and high sharpness in the same time. This is very important for my own approach for close-up photo.

Here is my own review :
http://simpho.free.fr/vr105/vr105e.html

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這支鏡頭因剛上市擁有的人太少,大家都還在等待較多較公正的测試.像Nærfoto Bjørn Rørslett這位大師所做的结論都還被質疑,我也很在意這支105mm VR鏡頭在大光圈f4的表現.Tamron 90mm macro表现最好是在f4-f5.6-f8,而Nærfoto Bjørn Rørslett說105mm vr表現最好是從f5.6-f8-f11.這位仁兄就跳出來反駁說105mm vr從f2.8開始到f11都表現很好. 所以需再等待多一點的测試吧.

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A few more with the 105VR

These aren't too special, but I have not seen many postings on this lens and I do think it is truly special.

These were all shot in jpeg mode at F4 and were not post processed (including sharpening) in any way. In fact I uploaded these via Picasa to my Flickr account.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18110188

這是用F4所試拍出來的影相,都沒有後製.

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Re: Question for Micro 105/2.8 VR owners

I have both. I would say they are both equally sharp (which is extremely). I have not tried to compare other aspects of image quality yet.

I can get sharp results at lower shutter speeds with the 60 -- the shorter focal length helps more than the VR does.

Other than that, the 105 is much more pleasant to use for macro -- the extra working distance is way more helpful than I expected it to be, and the auto-focus is light-years ahead.

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I have both!

I used to love the 60, sure the working distance was bad for insects but it was a nice little lens. Ever since the 105, the 60 has taken a back seat in many ways. The 105 is sharper, has better color, does not have flare problems (depending on the scene) The ED elements, the IF, the AFS not to forget about VR! It feels great using the manual focus, the 60 you have to use a clutch and then the focus ring still sucks.

Bottom line is that the 105 outclasses the 60 in every way. The 60 will be used for document copy, this is the one area that the 105 is just too big to use on.

Regards

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有人問及60mm macro和AFS-VR105mm macro的比較,第一位回答說60mm macro用較低的快門速度來拍攝也可以得到銳利的影像.第二位回答說AFS-VR105mm macro的銳利度及顏色表現較好,也没耀光問題.

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Sven Hedlund wrote:
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> Thanks for all your comments and sample pics! I will of course
> watch this thread for still more replies, but I think you have
> already made me ordering this lens... :-)


I'm sure you will not be disappointed with this lens. I cannot compare this lens directly to the micro 60, but only to the 105 AF-D and to the Tamron 90 DI. In every way the new 105 VR is better: optically as good as the Tamron (that I find better than the old 105 AF-D) and the AF-S and VR really make a difference in the field when shooting handheld.

Here are some samples, all handheld in AF-C mode:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=17940723

happy macro,

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此君無法作出AFS-VR105mm macro和60mm macro的比較.但他認為只要機身設在AF-C mode,AFS-VR105mm macro的鏡頭用60分之一秒的快門就能拍攝到很銳利的影像,而用舊款的105mm macro或tamron 90mm macro就得將快門提高到125分之一秒以上才能拍攝到很銳利的影像.

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這樣看起來暢快多了~~~感謝kuankuoyun2002