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2004/06/04 15:16
 
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見到這題真的令我感概良多.
想問問大家, 若大大們貴為婚禮攝影師, 見到有人/裝備又似行家又用相機影, 而你又知到這人是這婚禮的主人家, 你地會點做???
以下是在昨天, 2:30PM發生在小第身上的故事.
家中最年少o既亞妹昨日終於披上嫁衣, 因為佢未見過我做freelance幫人影o既結婚相, 而佢雖然非常滿意我三年前為佢影o既大學畢業相, 但佢堅持呢兩種相係完全不同, 所以佢堅決拒絕左我o既好意. 我就冇所謂, 但我都應我亞媽o既意, 影吓花絮, 於是我用一架C牌1仔+135+80-200+300不請自來(不請自攝就真). 又因為亞妹又要面又要錢, 依頭話影結婚相一定請專業, o個頭又叫個攝影師只在註冊處影, 吾駛泥屋企影, 話時間少D個攝影師收平D (比佢吹bear bear).
問題就在註冊處開始, 我都諗住吾好左人揾食, 而我一心諗住影花絮, 所以我先裝支135, o係呢個攝影師身後三尺左右影我自已o既野並揚言我只影花絮(當然, 我係肯定佢冇影緊相時我先影, 佢一影我就吾影, 以免我支燈閃倒佢架機), 但當我一裝好我set野, 佢不但冇打招呼, 仲無神神"bear"我一眼, 跟住不斷攝我位阻我, 我點影佢就點攝, 我比佢高三/四吋, 有時佢來不及攝我位, 就舉高佢架裝左550燈o既33V. 根住見佢有心左我, 我就裝支80-200避開佢, 佢一樣係咁攝, 連個movie man有時見個拍檔攝吾倒我, 就用佢支燈長照我, 令我入曬光影吾倒. 到我請佢吾好用燈照我, 佢吾聽, 後尾我大大聲話: 吾該, 吾好再影我! D親朋見吾對路走埋泥問我: 你覺吾覺個影相佬有心攝你位, 我就大大聲話佢鐘意攝就攝, 我一路都冇阻過佢, 你地個個都有眼見." 到最後我避無可避, 裝支300, 跟住佢就冇再攝我位.
到註完冊影外影, 佢就滾水六腳咁影, 見我舉機佢就o拿o拿淋轉位, 到佢發現佢阻吾倒我, 佢就換支sigma wide angle zoom, 當然係超wide o個D啦, 仲企正我個妹面前影, 跟住我同D屋企人講不如由得亞妹比人影, 我同佢地去Hi Tea啦.
你地評吓理, 依個攝影師做乜Q野. 我個妹星期日擺酒我又會見倒佢, 到時佢又咁攪野我實小狗佢!
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真可憐！
佢拿33v，你拿1仔，梗係妒忌你啦!
我上次幫朋友婚禮影snap shot，拿300d + tamron鏡，個專業攝影師拿1D加支LEICA 魚眼影SNAP SHOT，對我不知幾好......
心胸狹窄的人，唔使俾面! |
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Would he mistook that you"re also shooting for $$?
You better frankly tell the photographer that you"re the big brother of the bride and emphasise to him you are only snapping for fun. (I always do.)
Tell him to concentrate on his work and not "getting in your way". Let him know that if he fails to do a good job, your sister will not pay him... |
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係咁架喇
我都唔知關唔關"品"事
呢類野我都聽過下
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曾有類似的遭遇。
老友結婚，好想幫襯小弟，無奈女家有親戚開地鋪，比小弟的freelancer身分高一檔，新郎哥唯有乖乖就範，只叫小弟影點花絮。
婚禮當日，那位親戚居然以另外接了一單“正價”job為理由，著了他的兒子前來湊數。不知是否因為1.此人真的不太懂影相（他埋頭埋腦影了好久，突然被另一友人問道：“你這個角度能看見面孔麼？），生怕被人指指點點；還是2.他有點器材自卑感（可能高檔機比老豆拿了），看著我的D1x和F5不順眼，或者3.真的認為小弟阻著他，總之全程都面黑黑。
我倒相信是理由1，因為他多次用大背光／頂光來影合照又不補光。
最頂癮就是新人註冊時此人竟然遲到，待眾人進入禮堂後才姍姍而至，好在小弟有器材在手，可暫停拍攝花絮，改影一些正經／例牌相。註冊完影大合照時，此人竟然又煙癮發作，當幾十名親友排好隊，擠出了笑容時，他竟要整番一飛才繼續工作－－這算是什麼態度？
後來，他“丟掉”了其中一卷菲林（酒樓禮堂合照！），須由長輩交涉（其實是代新人講好話）才願意交出。
憑禮堂照的偏青情況，此人連一間熟悉的沖印店都沒有便來濫竽充數，實在非常過分。
最麻煩是此人是新娘的親戚，否則作為老友的我一定小狗佢，仲會指名道性唱衰這種行內敗類！ |
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最頂癮就是新人註冊時此人竟然遲到，待眾人進入禮堂後才姍姍而至，好在小弟有器材在手，可暫停拍攝花絮，改影一些正經／例牌相。註冊完影大合照時，此人竟然又煙癮發作，當幾十名親友排好隊，擠出了笑容時，他竟要整番一飛才繼續工作－－這算是什麼態度？
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Agree. 小狗佢!! Show no mercy to this un-professional guy. |
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我個人既意見。
果個攝影師肯定唔夠專業，你應該叫你個妹查問清楚一下。如果唔係，收左相之後唔合心水，咁就大吉。
我唔係睇少人地用乜野機。用 33V 原本係無問題。
問題係，而家好多攝影師都講行頭，唔打得都要睇得下，咁先至可以過到骨。賺到錢錢。所以而家大部份人都會先裝好身，買齊似樣既裝備，先至開場。
佢用 33V?!部機出左幾耐大家心知，如果佢係新買，咁你重驚。專業攝影師換機點解唔買 1/3/5？
如果而家我部 30 死左，如果我話考慮買部 30V ，你估呢度既人會有咩講？你又會點諗？
將心俾心。
我估（我斷估嫁咋！唔岩聽唔好甲乙我！）果個人係因為自覺技術唔到家，怕到時出左相之後唔夠你好，怕交唔到差，所以先至影響你，等你無乜好相，咁佢就可以蒙混過關。 |
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That poor photographer is not professional at all.
The frist things to be done in the very beginning are to recognize all the VIP in thewedding. He fail to identify the brother of the bride. I will try to hire another one la.
second, he did not focus on doing his job but 攝位. His product will not be good.
3rd, he 攝你位 because he afraid you take better photos than him and affecting his business.
I suggest your sister to find a better one. |
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Bro Chan Ting,
>>>>Would he mistook that you"re also shooting for $$?
家中最年少o既亞妹昨日終於披上嫁衣(my younger sister was just getting married yesterday.) If you are thinking on I am telling lies, there"s no need to use your invaluable time to reply this link as people can easily doing this stuff over the internet.
>>>>>You better frankly tell the photographer that you"re the big brother of the bride and emphasise to him you are only snapping for fun
我先裝支135, o係呢個攝影師身後三尺左右影我自已o既野並揚言我只影花絮(I firstly mounted my 135mm lens on my cam and stand ~3feet behind this pro., and clearly verbally indicated that I am just taking the snaps and I did not shown any intention(s) in affeting his paid job.)
Be franked, I think there is no need to emphasis on fun or kidding shots as I told him directly that I am the second brother of the bride and I asked the woman who signed the marriage cert as "MOM" and I am just want to take some snaps, and promptly let me know in case that I am obstructing him.
And the point is, this is not a rule that a cam man being hired for wedding photography or else doesn"t represents that you are the soul cam man for the show. And as a person being hired, he or she has to embrace and respect whathever the key family members and the friends and the relatives did (impoliteness are definitely not included, for sure!)
>>>>>Tell him to concentrate on his work
In my own opinion, coaching is not my job and I have no rights to intervere with the short-term relationship between my sis and this pro. especially with money or any monetary items involved.
chanchan316兄,
冇話妒吾妒忌, 我都淨係攞左架1出泥o者, 都買左13年啦, 致於我用L鏡, 就算佢有1V/Ds又好, LEICA, Hasselblad 又好, o果一刻佢只要係用33V, 仲企得出泥收人錢接野做都明白一山還有一山高(吾係形容自己)依個道理掛.
不過, 專業不單是指器村, 還有心態, 我相信大家都會明白依個道理. 吾通用1, 影相就一定叻? 當還未有先進科技時, 不少令人眼前一亮o既照片吾係己經出現左啦咩?!
人與人之間係應該互相尊重, 但有時做人都要分"裝同閑", o岩吾o岩??? 所以大家千奇吾好學依個pro cam man, 做個好好o既攝影愛好者, ok!! |
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Peter Lo 兄,
>>>>>因為他多次用大背光／頂光來影合照又不補光
昨日這個pro 就全程o係"香公"用這手法, 我慘不X睹!! |
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嗨！好耐無黎吹水。見到呢個題目，又好想講兩咀。
舊年下半年，小弟有幸幫三個朋友影結婚相，當然主人家有用真金白銀請攝影師影，我只係幫手。但我發覺而家有D攝影師(硬照同埋VIDEO)都好唔專業，影出黎D相同VIDEO真係噤死人，我D Friend話早知不如叫我做主力重好。
有時我發覺其實係D攝影師態度問題。好多時都無俾心機影相，就算比部好勁好好既機，都係曬料。 |
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水中月兄,
因為家中人事問題, 佢地有家父之蔭也只能緊緊地在極低排名o既U, 讀D吾知詳系畢業, 反之本人做F/T 文職, 讀夜校也能有MgmtDegree 同 MBA(因為讀夜校,所以你都見倒我D英文幾鶢吓, 同埋因為吾好彩被炒, 致做無業漢, 依家用public library + 自己notebook 上網同你地傾謁炸), 佢地所以好吾順我嫁. 我之前驚佢比人"握", 好心提佢一D事項都被佢開炮. 所以今次我都吾會出聲, 亦吾會交出本人劣作,以免又....
致於個pro cam man, 佢見我又用反光版幫亞媽影相, 測光又用Min記IVF對一對, 又備有驅蚊劑同paper fan(吾好意思, 吾識打), 佢就即刻同我亞妹講去第二道影.
mickey_mouse兄,
>>>>>he did not focus on doing his job but 攝位
咁又吾係, 佢一邊攝我一邊影, 依下佢都幾pro!! 抵讚, haha!
>>>I suggest your sister to find a better one.
吾得啦, 佢續日計, 落兩張單, 落曬訂. |
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RE: 古人
>>> 你地評吓理, 依個攝影師做乜Q野. 我個妹星期日擺酒我又會見倒佢, 到時佢又咁攪野我實小狗佢!
算數啦, 你都話係細妹既大喜日子, 既然係咁, 唯有盡量忍吓啦!!! 相信你既家人係會明白你既! 我都會o係呢度心靈上支持你!!! ^^ |
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古人,
家中最年少o既亞妹昨日終於披上嫁衣(my younger sister was just getting married yesterday.) If you are thinking on I am telling lies, there"s no need to use your invaluable time to reply this link as people can easily doing this stuff over the internet.
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I have no intention to say or imply that you"re telling lies. Sorry for that if what I said makes you think that way. It may be my poor presentation.
I was just to make sure that the photographer did knew that you"re the bride"s brother and not the photographer"s competitor when he obstructed you.
From your reply above, the photographer did clearly know the situation and had done terrible things.
Better ask your sister to hire another photographer (if possible).
I guess you still need to shoot at the banquet (as back up) so that your sister will have some "useable" photos.
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pat_kwok 兄,
如果以個人意見, 佢只係"渣機人", 稱不上攝影師等云云.
我亦試過多次被人睇死而做大後備, 但好多時比我發覺, D專業.....竟然連自己支燈條線插吾正, 冇光打都吾知(其實另一雙眼係吾應該合埋, 以觀察周圍情況, 例如監察自己支燈有冇吾閃同埋突然走出離o既人), 到我提佢佢又面loan loan. 結果咪又係我好彩大勝佢.(當時得廿靚, 好好勝.) |
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古人,
古語有云: 路遙知馬力, 日久見人心!!!
支持你! |
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chan_ting 兄,
吾好意思, 令到你吾會, 我吾係話你亞, 千奇吾好吾會, 免傷和氣!!
不過大家都要明白一吓, 網上傾謁因為大家都係估緊對方o既態度, 好多時因為估錯而不快. 希望大家千奇吾好落左吾會依個深淵!!!!!!!
>>>>>I guess you still need to shoot at the banquet (as back up) so that your sister will have some "useable" photos.
我諗吾會啦, 最初佢拒絕我不突只. 重加多一句: 吾駛嫁啦, 不過你鍾意影就影啦. 我實在覺得無地自容!
我依家諗, 星期日不如攞埋支85,1.2去, 再加埋Contax G2影snaps, 重就最多拖o急, 睇吓佢點反應, 激死個pro cam man!
不過講講吓, 我真係用過好多錢o係影相方面, 依家冇野做都吾知係咪自作X.
點都好, 真係好多謝大家幫我抱不平! 因為我同我亞哥講話個pro 佬同一個位影幾張係幫亞妹燒緊銀"只"(吾好意思, 又吾識打), 點知我亞哥答, 你識詳啞, 你又吾係專業! |
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I have also seen a so-called Pro-photographer shooting my friend"s wedding in a church without a back-up camera and did not check how many frames were left in his current roll before the big moment.
Guess what?
At the moment of the bride and groom kissing (the most important moment), that photographer run out of film in his camera and told the couple to hold their kiss and wait for his rewinding and loading of new film...!! |
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沐雪兄,
自家父三年前去後, 家中全部維修都係由本人負責, 亦試過因為我在場o既關係, 令佢地不只一次免受中度受傷之苦, 如果佢地係領情o既又點....不過吾好講啦, 免得我繼續行衰運.
多謝關心!! |
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其實有朋友幫手影相是經常出現,可能一些新入行的攝影師未習慣.
大家可以先和他打過招呼,說明自己的身份,相信可減少問題.
現在很多影友都以"器材先決"來衡量攝影師,但實際應從他們的拍攝位置,場面處理及和賓客的溝通看到他們的"功力"
上星期老友結婚,小弟也是在旁拍花絮,當時的主力攝影師是位"師姐",大家合作愉快,有講有笑. |
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chan ting兄,
你係咪我個妹o的朋友, 點解你會知o個個所謂pro o係o個一刻出左依個錯吾阿!!
我就o岩o岩好, kiss 係o係尾尾o個五張!! |
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