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24digital


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2003/11/08 21:29
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今次歐洲之行我大佬認識了一位以買相為生的外國攝影師, 而他所使用的是他自己制造的 8 x 10 相機, 配一支超舊蘇聯鏡.

http://mp5a3.tripod.com/camera.jpg

真沒想到會有可以自制的大型機, 他每次使用都要用外套把相機從背後cover 住才可以觀景。

mickey_mouse


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1) 2003/11/08 21:40 
I have made a 4x5 from a kit name bender
http://www.benderphoto.com/

I have made three cameras alread and with one 6x17 in progress.

it is not as difficult as you expected.  on the other way, it is quite easy as it is just a light tight box.

many people made from nothing.

http://home.online.no/~gjon/
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-one-category?topic_id=1547&category=DIY%20(building%2Crestoring)
http://www.cdegroot.com/photo/lfbuild/
http://www.btinternet.com/~jrbham/4x5/

more on google.
http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=diy+camera+large+format&meta=

香港至*NET*超人


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2) 2003/11/08 22:41 
想自製8x10機, 真係話都冇咁易!
最簡單就係一個A4紙箱噴黑油, 再用黑膠布封漏光,
盒蓋開個孔安裝鏡頭, 箱內底用膠紙貼好張菲林,
對焦就預早係個第二個一樣既盒個或開孔貼牛油紙,
量好盒長係黑盒作MARKING.

24digital


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3) 2003/11/09 07:05 
to mickey_mouse
bender 既 kit, 都唔係太貴, 可否詳細少少講下你部4x5既情況, 是否容易安裝? 實際應用是否困難?, 如何購買鏡頭? 可有快門線等等....
因為我都幾有興趣試下。

mickey_mouse


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4) 2003/11/09 10:09 
>bender 既 kit, 都唔係太貴, 可否詳細少少講下你部4x5既情況, 是否容易安裝?

not difficult.  And you don"t need to be very accurate for a DIY camera.

>實際應用是否困難?,
Not quite suitable for outdoor as it is a monorail design. And film back is not graflok in the orignal kit that you can not use 612 back,  I modify it to Graflok by myself.

>如何購買鏡頭?
Any large format lenses are ok.  shutter is on lenses.  快門線is not included in the kit.  

>因為我都幾有興趣試下。
there still be risk.  It is not recommended if you have no wood work or model experience.  you may cosider to buy a china made wooden box 4x5 camera instead of building you own.  
and I seldom use this DIY one aafter I have a box 4x5 camera that is more suitbale to outdoor.

mickey_mouse


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5) 2003/11/09 10:13 
try to avoid 8x10 if you are in hong kong.  it is very difficult and almost impossible to buy 8x10 film in hong kong.  4x5 are ok.

24digital


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6) 2003/11/10 06:45 
to mickey_mouse
請問你所講既大陸做 4x5 幾多錢呀, 在那裡有得賣, 有冇好似bender kit 咁有皮腔, 而bender kit 既皮腔又可否起到好像移軸鏡頭般的作用?

JamesPong


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7) 2003/11/10 08:47 
上海申豪相機

http://www.shen-hao.com/

mickey_mouse


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8) 2003/11/10 09:48 
>上海申豪相機

I use it most. very good c/p value

mickey_mouse


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9) 2003/11/10 09:50 
I was told that you can find 申豪相機 in cameras shop in GZ/SZ.
I bought mine when I visit Seagull Factory in Shanghai.
They also get a very bargain 6x12 film back,

JamesPong


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10) 2003/11/10 16:03 

mickey_mouse


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11) 2003/11/10 20:14 
>早前有留意過申豪這機(4×5),但看過這篇,說得它很差,害我不敢買

those links are too Bias.  The comments in Europe and USA on those cameras are ranged from good to very good.

24digital


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12) 2003/11/10 20:19 
頂, 點解我睇唔到兩條links既,

mickey_mouse 兄
你所用既鏡頭係自己另外買定係跟機架? 部HZX45-ⅡA 幾錢呀一套, 包d咩呀, 我對4x5機冇咪認識

mickey_mouse


新進會員

13) 2003/11/10 20:27 
Mine is around $4000, however, I forget what mode it is.
In only include the camera, two lenses board for mounting lenses.

You have to buy lenses such as Schenider, Rodenstock............
Superman should be able to give more information about lenses and anything related to 4x5.

You also have to buy film back, focusing cloth, light meter (can use another 135 camera or DC for this purpose). tripod.  Then it should be enough in the very beginning.

I only try one 4x5 film so far.  I mostly shoot 612 currently. I only have a very old 127mm graflex lenses detached from a old cameras.

香港至*NET*超人


新進會員

14) 2003/11/10 22:06 
I never like any wooden field camera.
But the 612 magazine from Mainland is really good stuff.

mickey_mouse


新進會員

15) 2003/11/10 22:37 
Superman, would you please give out some information about large format lenses to 24digital?

香港至*NET*超人


新進會員

16) 2003/11/10 22:49 
24DIGITAL? 咩黎??

mickey_mouse


新進會員

17) 2003/11/11 00:04 
24DIGITAL is the man who post this thread.
Sorry for confusing you.

24digital


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18) 2003/11/12 12:12 
to mickey_mouse

可否有時間連絡我, 想多點了解申豪的4x5
我的電話是 96247526
唔該先

香港至*NET*超人


新進會員

19) 2003/11/12 12:37 
Sorry, I cannot recognised that 24digital is a user in this thread.
24digital, I apologize on my impolite question.

24digital


新進會員

20) 2003/11/12 20:50 
no problem 超人.
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